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J77



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Personally, I would go for the smallest rim and largest tyre wall height that will give you the tyre tread you want. If you can't get it in a 19 then go 20. The more sidewall the better. Cheers

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Post #1049260 20th Oct 2024 8:26pm
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zahy



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CincyRovers1 wrote:
The factory tire size for the 19" wheels are 255/65R19. This is a JLR-specific tire size and the only options for A/Ts are the factory Goodyear Wrangler Adventures, which are not that great off-road, and the Goodyear Duratracs, which are quite good, but there are better A/T tires out there. I originally specced my Defender with the 19" Style 6009 wheels. That was a mistake because of the lack of tire options. I bought a set of Style 516 20" wheels from an LR4/D4 XXV Edition and am now running Falken Wildpeak AT3W sized LT265/60R20. In 2025 BFGoodrich will offer the KO3 in the OEM size per their website. The 22" wheels are the worst size when it comes to off-roading. They don't have a ton of sidewall.

If I were you, I'd get a set of 20" wheels and go for a slightly wider tire like I did, as you'll have a lot of choices. You still have plenty of sidewall on the 20" wheels. I have done some moderate off-roading in my Defender on the 20" wheels and I haven't had any issues.


Thank you, the problem with 20" wheels JL offering are not good option for me, I like the look of the 6009, but worried they are too small. 2.2 90 XS
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zahy



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eno wrote:
Hi zahy, what is the standard wheel for your model? Like CincyRovers1 says, 20" inch wheels give you many more tyre options. I'm not sure about UK market options but here gloss black or 22" wheels couldn't be optioned with off-road tyres. But that was for MY24 so it may well be different now. But the description of your use case sounds like off-road tyres would be the choice.


Also MY25 offers no off roading tyres for the 22", my dealer tells me they should be ok for the type of my semi off roading driving, I am not 100 percent sure about that, also one major problem I have where I live in the south of England, potholes everywhere and comes in different sizes Mr. Green 2.2 90 XS
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zahy



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haymeister wrote:
I'm on the 6010 19" in gloss black on factory fit Wrangler A/T.
3 years, 52k km (32k miles) and still going strong.

I do a lot of motorway miles and occasionally some light off roading on mud/grass and gravel tracks.
Lots of rubber means they are very comfy, relatively quiet, fuel efficient, and look 'the part

As others have said the 19" is a strange size and you're not going to get many (any?) other choices. Sidewall is also weak.

20" is better if you want more choice. Have you considered the 5098? They look good in person and gives a bit more rubber and sidewall.



I never thought about the 5098, will check them, the 6010 19" without a doubt they look amazing. 2.2 90 XS
Post #1049281 21st Oct 2024 5:46am
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zahy



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J77 wrote:

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20” pretty much the same design but will give more sidewall. Just get them painted.


they do look the same, once they are painted ! good option for me to go for ! thanks Thumbs Up 2.2 90 XS
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zahy



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lrFFM wrote:
No need to get them painted. They come in different colors.


this specific wheel i don't think they do come in black tho, grey yes but not black gloss. 2.2 90 XS
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zahy



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Davedig wrote:
Plenty of brand new sets on eBay, buy them and sell your 22” wheel set for a good chunk more!


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Post #1049285 21st Oct 2024 5:50am
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zahy



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Re: 22" Style 5098 wheels in Gloss Black for off roadin
A1C6 wrote:
zahy wrote:
for the new defender 90 I've chosen the 22" Style 5098 wheels in Gloss Black and I'm curious if anyone here has experience with them. Do you recommend them? I live in an area with quite a few potholes, and I plan to use the new vehicle for shooting during the game seasons. The terrain will mostly be muddy with some light off-roading, but nothing too extreme like rocky paths or river crossings!
Thanks

The 22" wheels are fine. Our car originally came with them, but we decided to downsize to 20" wheels with off-road tyres. This is mainly because of how much the 22" wheels sucked off-roading. We were on the train and it was unexpectedly muddy one day. Thick clay mud and ruts. The road tyres on the 22s just couldn't cope, and we were worried about getting a pinch flat as well. Our other car (which shall remain unnamed) was not really designed for off-roading originally but does come with off-road tyres left the Defender in the dust on that trail. With the 20s, however, it goes great off-road. We actually had to get them in a rush as we were invited on an expedition to Fraser Island by a mate, and they did amazing!!! The car also seems to drive better on the smaller wheels, almost like the 22s were an afterthought. For your situation, I'd recommend getting some 20" Style 5098 wheels in Grey, and just get them painted in Gloss Black with the standard off-road tyres. The only disappointment you could have with those is that they don't have 'DEFENDER' written on the spokes like the 22s. Let me know if you have any questions about my logic.


The more I read, the more I feel that the 20" is the right choice for me. My only concern is whether 22" can handle muddy terrain, just like you mentioned. Thumbs Up 2.2 90 XS
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Japseroony wrote:
I have a set of genuine LR 19” with Goodyear Duratrac’s fitted and also OEM TPMS valves that have covered about 7000 miles with the spare unused.

They have been used off road so the wheels have some marks on them but noting too bad.

Pic below of the car with the wheels on.

PM me if they are of any interest Thumbs Up


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Your 110 defender looks amazing Thumbs Up 2.2 90 XS
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zahy



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jst wrote:
Personally, I would go for the smallest rim and largest tyre wall height that will give you the tyre tread you want. If you can't get it in a 19 then go 20. The more sidewall the better.


my biggest worry from 22" are potholes ! but not many members here seems to have issue with that ! I will either go for 19 or go for the 20" and get it painted in gloss black.

thanks everyone for the helpful comments and information, appreciated Thumbs Up 2.2 90 XS
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IMHO the 22” are far too easy to damage the rim due to the very low profile of the tyre and you are far more likely to nip the sidewall causing a puncture.

The 20” are ok and had them on my first P400 but changed them for a set of 19” when going off road.

The 19” are by far the best and like I said these are up for sale or will be once I’m back from Wales:



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"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.
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zahy



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why you selling them ? 2.2 90 XS
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Japseroony



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Selling the car so putting the original 20" back on Thumbs Up Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.
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