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LR90XS2011



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pay per mile petition
https://www.change.org/p/stop-intrusive-na...-in-the-uk DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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JPE



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Wouldn't a pay per mile approach be a fairer system & better for the planet?

I use public transport during the week for work & enjoy my defender at weekends and for trips away.

I choose to use public transport, even though its less convenient for me.

Surely someone driving 20k miles a year should pay more than someone doing 3k a year?
Post #1049015 17th Oct 2024 9:41pm
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bankz5152



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Its not though is it? Its disproportionate some have to do 80m+ per day due to being rural and having limited/no public transport links.

Me for example. 45min drive to my parents house. Or its a 2 hours+ going into into London and back out agin and costs £45 on public transport. No thanks.

Not only that is PPM creates very easy ways to defraud the system. Unplug your speedo, clock the mileage, pay the MOT man to change it, reprogram the ecu to show lower mileage. The abuse of the system is higher and easier. Sure it could be backed up by ANPR but that only works in cities, the infrastructure isnt there otherwise. Nor does the UK have the cash to implement it around the uk.

For a TD5 owner its extremely easy, just have two sets of clocks. End up paying less than the £395 a year now. Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #1049019 17th Oct 2024 9:54pm
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JPE



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That's a fair point, it does disadvantage anyone who lives in a more remote location.

I live in a fairly rural area, but at the end of a bus route so I'm fortunate to have the option.
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RFT



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We have a well established pay per litre scheme in the UK, its a combination of fuel duty plus VAT. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
Post #1049025 17th Oct 2024 10:08pm
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bankz5152



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JPE wrote:
That's a fair point, it does disadvantage anyone who lives in a more remote location.

I live in a fairly rural area, but at the end of a bus route so I'm fortunate to have the option.


Thing is its not just rural. Its vast amounts of England and the majority of Wales and Scotland.

I live near Gatwick, parents in Bromley. Theres no direct public transport links and its hideously expensive and inconvenient. So yeah Ill drive every time. Not only that I dont have to deal with some yob playing music on his phone or vomit on the floor.

Sorry but for the cost of public transport in the UK its horrendous. Id rather drive a 4 mpg petrol... Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #1049026 17th Oct 2024 10:11pm
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custom90



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What about those who don’t want to go to the city for any reason, not all of us want to go on trains or busses for any reason.
Simply live in rural areas that stay out the city, and only go to out of town shops and that is all.
This is because they want to try to force those that don’t want the city, to go in it, because they want to make money upon that “entry” into it.

I think how pensioners (I am not one) are being treated as well is truly disgraceful, in many ways especially this winter. Such as the winter fuel payments etc.

Mind you they want to make the U.K. a concrete jungle…

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Post #1049027 17th Oct 2024 10:12pm
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bankz5152



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Very good point.

Though didnt say I lived in a city, I hate London. I only go to see family, otherwise avoid it at all costs.

I live in a smallish town, moving soon to a smaller town to be more away from people Laughing Instagram @defender_ventures
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Away from people is good. Laughing NEVER SURRENDER! ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #1049030 17th Oct 2024 10:51pm
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