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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
Thanks for posting the pictures, I like the way the 30mm spacers look, I might well follow suit.
I wonder why the Foundry spacers have the feature that "pre-loads" the bushes as you describe?... If the bar was mounted directly to the chassis there would be no such pre-load? One thing I don't really like is the way the spacers are bolted to the chassis using only two of the available 4 per side. |
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29th Jul 2023 5:59pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17359 |
The polybush spacers supplied with the X-Deflex are dimensionally different to those fitted with a standard ARB (for a start the hole in the middle is bigger). When fitted round the X-Deflex halfshaft and then into the U-shaped clamps, the top of the bush is lower than the mating face of the clamp. I imagine that the stepped arrangement of the spacer is intended to make up for this difference, but with the current kit-of-parts the dimensions are such as to put a huge preload on the bush. it makes me wonder if the bushes supplied now are not the same shape and size as the bushes the kit was designed for.
When in operation doing anti-roll bar staff it is hard to see that there would be any significant vertical load on the mounts, their sole purpose is to support the bar and most of the forces will be torsional within the bar. It is also worth considering that the original chassis mounts are not exactly robust, and also that the life-expectancy of ARB bushes is generally quite long (the standard rubber ones I've just taken off are at least 12 years old and have done more than 200,000 miles, and whilst clearly "used" they are completely serviceable. |
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29th Jul 2023 6:19pm |
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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
Yes, all good points👍🏻
If I make some spacers I will replicate the pre-load of the kit version 🙂 |
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29th Jul 2023 8:39pm |
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Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2081 |
That does look like a really good but of kit - nice and shiny too Great explanation as always Blackwolf 👍 Good photo too - looks like you have a quad-axle beast 🤪 |
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30th Jul 2023 8:38am |
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mwestcrew Member Since: 09 Dec 2019 Location: South Warwickshire Posts: 247 |
Thanks blackwolf et al for comments. I will invest in one of these very soon. 2011 130 Utility Body
2005 110 Van |
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31st Jul 2023 4:47pm |
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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
OK, a couple of hours on the mill and I have these....
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21st Aug 2023 6:00pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17359 |
As an update to to the above, the preload-adjusted spacers haven't deformed at all since fitting, and I have now done quite a few miles including most types of driving. I feel this supports my "excessive preload" theory. |
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21st Aug 2023 6:35pm |
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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
I have replicated the standard pre-load @ 6mm on my spacers
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21st Aug 2023 7:27pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17359 |
I noticed! Nice job on the machining.
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21st Aug 2023 7:53pm |
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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
Thanks!.... I like to make a bit of swarf
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22nd Aug 2023 10:21am |
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chris.beard82 Member Since: 18 Sep 2024 Location: Worcester Posts: 2 |
I’ve been installing the X-Deflex this weekend. How did you guys decide on the length of the knuckle arms? I assume that I want them as extended as possible to give the best ground clearance?
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6th Oct 2024 12:13pm |
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rustandoil Member Since: 08 Sep 2012 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 738 |
I don't think there's a set length.... I just wound the rod ends in leaving around 20 / 25mm thread exposed, making sure they were the same.
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6th Oct 2024 3:46pm |
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chris.beard82 Member Since: 18 Sep 2024 Location: Worcester Posts: 2 |
Mine have ended up at about 30mm and 40mm of exposed thread. It messed with my head a bit got there the end! Thanks for the input. I have fitted Gwyn Lewis’s Explorer suspension kit and I have a 85kg roof tent so without any sway bar it was quite alarming if I had to swerve. Just took the 110 for a drive and it is a huge improvement with the x-deflex fitted.
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6th Oct 2024 4:10pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20308 |
Dinitrol I did mine with, quite a while ago and it is still 95% good now as well, it’s good stuff. Foundry 4x4 are pretty good too, I bought two of their MT82 mag filler / drains not long ago. I know there is a magnet inside the grabs anyway, but still good to have. On a side note based on the pic posted, I just noticed the 110 fuel tank compared to a 90 seems more vulnerable, but equally the 110 fuel tank is easier to work on and take out than a 90. None of it is anything a good fuel tank guard doesn’t sort out though, of which I seem to remember yours does have which you’ve fitted. Do you have Diff guards? Mine has the QT wrap around type, similar to wild bear type now available. Some people have HD diff pans too, which has a bit more ground clearance than a guard. Slightly off topic admittedly. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️ |
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6th Oct 2024 4:39pm |
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