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Colin68



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yes we are signed up for the EV tariff on our electric so we charged it up midnight till 5 am
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spudfan



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Is it charged irrespective of the charge level of the battaries? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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Colin68



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Yes it will fully charge in 5 hours on our home charger
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spudfan



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What would be the realistic range once charged? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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TexasRover



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Colin68 wrote:
Yes it will fully charge in 5 hours on our home charger


This is the EV concept I buy into. Smallish car for local commuter use, charged at home at night. Alternatively if you don't work, a few solar panels to charge during the day.

Although this is totally achievable for me, there is a large part of the population where it won't work for.

Also cost of ownership would be important to me so nothing fancy required which is obviously the opposite what car producers want

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Colin68



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Mini say 144 miles but we usually get 110-120
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spudfan



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Thank you, always good to get first hand user comments. Thumbs Up 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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H1Tad



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TexasRover wrote:
Colin68 wrote:
Yes it will fully charge in 5 hours on our home charger


This is the EV concept I buy into. Smallish car for local commuter use, charged at home at night. Alternatively if you don't work, a few solar panels to charge during the day.

Although this is totally achievable for me, there is a large part of the population where it won't work for.

Also cost of ownership would be important to me so nothing fancy required which is obviously the opposite what car producers want


The math simply doesn't add up to have a dedicated commuter car. Unless you live in a densely-populated urban environment and you don't ever travel outside of that ecosystem and its your only vehicle you use. Perhaps a suburban setting would work as well depending on the overall climate - in colder climates like where I live, all of the EV's suddenly disappear starting in November and don't start showing up again until May.

The additional car payment, insurance, taxes, and yes - maintenance (EV's need tires too, some argue much more often than ICE due to their increased weight) in addition to the logistics of finding a place to keep it next to your "does everything car".... it's just a non-starter for a lot of people.

The added issue with that, is typically dense urban vehicles do not have off-street parking where charging is possible. 2022 Defender 110 SE P400 Tasman Blue Expedition and Cold weather package
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TexasRover



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Yes exactly I agree it's too narrow a use

...and when you have everything right, like in the case of my wife: Park at home, use for shopping, kids to school, maybe trip to the big town never more than 30-40 miles round trip... you find that a simple small petrol vehicle (Peugeot 109) is MUCH cheaper to buy (decent 1-2 year old used, low miles, very practical, cheap to maintain and for those few miles it drives very cheap to run.

Even when this little car she has is ready for replacement an electric vehicle will be a hard sell.
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spudfan



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Our hospital is 40 miles away, so 80 mile round trip. The larger hospital where we could end up is a 206 mile round trip. An EV is not really practical if it is your only car and you have to go to the "big" hospital . 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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spudfan wrote:
Over here the EV is still being pushed as the way to go. Reports state that there has been a drop in EV sales but more hybrids sold. The hybrid thing always seemed an anomaly to me.
If you are running on battery power you are carrying the weight of the fossil fuel power unit, plus fuel plus auxillaries for the system so this is bound to impact on it's range.
Likewise when using the fossil powered engine you have to cart around the battaries and related paraphenalia so fuel consumption will go up. Neither system gets to work to it's optimum capacity.
Given the reports of fires in EV's it does not seem sensible to put a tank of combustible fuel into the mix as in a hybrid. Surely if there is a battery related fire in a hybrid the fuel in the fuel tank will only make it worse.



Nobody talks about gross vehicle weights or that some hybrids can’t be fitted with a towbar (Audi Q5 for one) even though they are ‘sold’ as family fun / weekend adventure lifestyle vehicles.
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