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LR_Bucks



Member Since: 25 Nov 2021
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Electronic fault - total electric failure
Defender 110 XS edition D250 - collected end of April earlier this year.

Driving today - hit with the following warnings randomly:
1. stop safely electronic failure detected
2. Suspension fault detected
3. Gearbox fault detected

(Along with other electronic alerts search as hill descent control not available)

Vehicle forced into neutral and can't reselect a gear, forced to stop.
Car won't restart - currently awaiting recovery.

Suspect a faulty alternator - has anyone experienced the above?!
Post #1038159 22nd Jun 2024 8:48pm
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lightning



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Haven't heard of any other total breakdowns. Although one or two alternator failures have been reported.

What battery voltage is showing on your screen, if any?

I hope it's soon repaired, please update with any developments.
Post #1038293 24th Jun 2024 5:26pm
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lightning



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Any update on your Defender?
Post #1040659 21st Jul 2024 8:35pm
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Post #1040679 22nd Jul 2024 7:10am
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lightning



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That sounds like they don't know what the fault is. l wonder if there's any update. l've got a few friends with Defenders, all but one MHEV diesel and none of them have had any issues with battery charging.

l know there's been a fair bit of it on the Grenadier
Post #1040747 22nd Jul 2024 6:57pm
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LR_Bucks



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Apologies for not posting an update - only excuse is having an 11 week old!

I collected the car just over 3 weeks after the breakdown - with the 12v battery and DC/DC converter both replaced to supposedly resolve the issue.

It seems the DC/DC converter was the issue - but when I pushed the service team for an answer on what has caused this, the answer I received was only 'general wear and tear' - sure, after only 1,400 miles?!

Apparently there have been a few instances of this (within the Marshalls UK dealer group) - and it's been escalated to JLR.

I've requested a more detailed technical report which they have agreed to but I'm still waiting for this, have chased again this week.

The vehicle has since managed a 400 mile round trip without fault since then, though - so hopefully nothing further goes wrong.
Post #1040952 25th Jul 2024 8:28am
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lightning



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l hope so as well, l shudder to think what this would cost out of warranty.

My local independent LR specialist has a lovely 2014 110 XS Utility just come in, and have offered me £15,000 plus that vehicle for my 2022 90 Commercial.

l have to say, l did think about it to the point where l am going to borrow it for a few hours to see what l think of it.
Post #1041129 27th Jul 2024 5:08pm
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jkc74



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our 21 plate Defender 110, sadly 6 months out of manufacturer warranty, was towed last week for 'electrical fault' warning and then full shut down of car. Finally after having the recovered car 12 days LR dealership have diagnosed new DC converter required. Obviously it's expensive but I'm suspicious that somethings going on coz dealership said they would part fund the fix and because the part is on back order they would provide a hire car. Plus they will seek a contribution directly from LR? Very good but all seems highly suspect to me, perhaps the dealership missed something during the service in April? Perhaps there was a recall but we weren't included? Anyone else think it smells fishy? Where should I go with this?
Post #1053313 29th Nov 2024 11:03am
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91dm



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So my 2022 D250 has the same issue, it’s currently in the garage and they’ve said it’s the DC converter. Luckily I’m just inside my warranty time wise and have covered 40k miles.

Is there an issue with the DC converter parts, I’ve read one other forum with this issue.
Post #1053334 29th Nov 2024 2:43pm
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Nuclear Nick



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jkc74 wrote:
our 21 plate Defender 110, sadly 6 months out of manufacturer warranty, was towed last week for 'electrical fault' warning and then full shut down of car. Finally after having the recovered car 12 days LR dealership have diagnosed new DC converter required. Obviously it's expensive but I'm suspicious that somethings going on coz dealership said they would part fund the fix and because the part is on back order they would provide a hire car. Plus they will seek a contribution directly from LR? Very good but all seems highly suspect to me, perhaps the dealership missed something during the service in April? Perhaps there was a recall but we weren't included? Anyone else think it smells fishy? Where should I go with this?


I don’t think this is fishy. You’re being offered contribution outside of warranty. I’d accept and not look back. 23.5MY 90 V8 Carpathian grey
Post #1053507 30th Nov 2024 9:32pm
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lightning



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Please come back and update with how much it cost after Land Rover's contribution
Post #1053509 30th Nov 2024 10:01pm
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Regan1980



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I have recently experienced a similar issue - I am out of warranty

Wife was driving, car displayed electrical fault and pull over immediately.

AA chap said the battery was flat...charged it up a bit and got us to the garage. AA chap suspected alternator.

Local (non specialist) garage couldn't do anything as they don't hold any of the equipment to diagnose MHEV's.

Called up a specialist in Poole, call back from their tech guy, didnt want me to bring it in as they do not have the expertise/equipment for electrical faults on these cars.

Booked it into Hendy Christchurch...charged the battery overnight and just about made it to the garage.

Diagnosed as DC-DC convertor failure

"FOUND START UP BATTERY NOT BEING SUPPORTED BY DC DC - CONFIRMED INTERNAL FAULT WITH DC DC CONVERTOR"

Cost Breakdown:

Diagnostic £180
DC-DC Convertor £681.03
Battery Charge, Test and Reset £54
Labour £468 (took them 2.6 hours)

Total £1383.03 (£1659.64 inc VAT)

Part was on back order, took them 2 weeks to source and fix it.

Im 3.5 years into the car with 38k Miles. This is the first fault I have had with this car. Apart from the headlights....which is for another thread.

The have given me the old DC DC convertor...not sure if this is a repairable component but I know what Hendy are like they just want to replace everything without trying actually fix anything.
Post #1055214 20th Dec 2024 1:12pm
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91dm



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This is almost the same experience that I had apart from they replaced the battery to start with.

A new DC-DC converter at 40K miles, the garage said they hadn't replaced any and now two that week.
Post #1055216 20th Dec 2024 1:42pm
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