↓ Advertise on Defender2 ↓

Home > Puma (Tdci) > Should the engine be holding revs between gears?
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 1 of 3 123>
Print this entire topic · 
K.M



Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 300

United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Should the engine be holding revs between gears?
As the title suggests really.

Occasionally - or it may just be I only occasionally notice it - but when I'm changing between the gears the engine tends to hold the revs momentarily.

So for example, lets say I'm in 4th and approaching traffic lights or a round-about, I'll depress the clutch and coast until I know whether I'm going down the gears or continuing to accelerate and move up a gear (perhaps a poor example but hopefully you get what I mean). When this happens I notice the revs will hold for a few seconds and then begin to fall.

I assumed this was to allow rev match during gear changes - helping with a smoother transition - but thought it was worth asking as I saw another post relating to revving issues....
Post #554298 7th Aug 2016 7:16pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Iggle piggle



Member Since: 10 Sep 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 378

United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 V8 Petrol ST Alpine White
Yes it is normal,
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will be along shortly to explain why

Failing that, some "helpful" person will just point you to the search function! Very Happy
Post #554310 7th Aug 2016 7:46pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Ryderoo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2015
Location: South Oxfordshire
Posts: 1666

England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Iggle is correct, mine does it, it is normal, I believe it is an anti stall feature, I also believe it is called Rev Hang.

A search should give you a few results. Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
Post #554315 7th Aug 2016 7:52pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
K.M



Member Since: 28 Apr 2016
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 300

United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
I assumed it would be normal as there are benefits to it doing it but I thought it was certainly worth checking... especially seen as she is already at the Dealership having something else fixed!

I know that the Nissan 350 / 370Z have a feature whereby the revs are held between the gears to allow for a smoother transition.. therefore by the transit of properties... we drive a Nissan sportscar!
Post #554321 7th Aug 2016 7:58pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Happyoldgit



Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Yes perfectly normal, the idea behind it being to reduce drive line shock loading [ie clunking as the slack is taken up amongst the various components]. Many people these are not used to changing gear smoothly in what is, after all, a fairly sloppy transmission as they have grown accustomed to slick changes in modern car gearboxes. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

[Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc]

http://forums.lr4x4.com

I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
Post #554337 7th Aug 2016 8:26pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
megatoad



Member Since: 07 Jan 2012
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 358

United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
I must admit it confused be a bit when we picked up the wifes new 2.2 this March.

I assumed it was to help keep the turbo spooled up which virtually stops spinning in my TD5 when you take the foot off the throttle Sad

What I dont like in the 6 speed box is the POP in and out of the gears, whereas the old R380s smoothly go from gear to gear.

I also find the gear lever position confusing hopping from from the daily TD5 to swambos TDCi its never where your left hand expects to find it or the direction you expect it to go in!

Add into the mix the spare car, an old D1 and all three are completly different.

I do like the 2.2's Anti stall, it feels much more confident than the TD5 though He who dies with the most toys wins Smile

Defender 90 & 110, S1 80", Disco 1, S111 88
LRSOC & CVLRC
Post #554410 8th Aug 2016 8:38am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20359

United Kingdom 
Yes, I get it rarely too and mine is a 2.4 as well.
I think it occurs when you make a gear change a little quicker than you should ideally do so.
Of course, if you've been driving a 6sp Def for a few years your pretty experienced hence the rare occourance of it occurring.

Usually is 2nd 3rd and 4th as you say.

I would worry, completely normal - as normal as a Defender could be. Rolling with laughter
Post #554418 8th Aug 2016 9:19am
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Eau02467



Member Since: 20 May 2015
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 48

Scotland 
If it's a 2.4 and you are getting rev hang it isn't normal, it is caused by a failing clutch pressure switch. More than likely your clutch fluid has never been replaced and is full of moisture.
Post #555118 10th Aug 2016 6:57pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 821

Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I have changed my clutch switch and I am still getting the annoying Rev hang on my 2.4

I have bridged it to try that and also no luck.

Any other tips? Is it worth changing the master cylinder? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1036405 3rd Jun 2024 6:17pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17378

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I know it sounds daft, but check your brake light bulbs - I seem to recall that a failed brake light can, bizarrely, cause this on the 2.4!
Post #1036409 3rd Jun 2024 6:53pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 821

Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I will definitely check that!

Weirdly I’ve only just changed my rear tail/brake lights! 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1036412 3rd Jun 2024 7:09pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 821

Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Shocked Confused I’ve just been out to check and I do not have brake lights!

Side lights, indicators and reverse lights all working, apart from brake lights… 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1036415 3rd Jun 2024 7:48pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17378

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Interesting, sort out the brake lights and hopefully the rev hang problem will be cured.

The delights of recent Land-Rovers!
Post #1036417 3rd Jun 2024 8:08pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 821

Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Electrical side isn’t my strong point - can you point me in the direction of the brake light fuse as a starting point to check, please? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1036421 3rd Jun 2024 8:26pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 821

Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
After a search it looks like I need to check F13 fuse for the rear lights? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1036468 4th Jun 2024 12:46pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 1 of 3 123>
All times are GMT

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
DEFENDER2.NET RSS Feed - All Forums