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walfy



Member Since: 29 Aug 2007
Location: Frome
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Washing/Detailing
So my process for washing my Defender is

Wet down and let sit
Snow foam
Rinse
Hand wash
Rinse
Dry with towel

But the paintwork never seems to be overly shiny. When I see the Polish do it, they spray on something afeter the drying and rub off with clean cloth. Seems to make car extremely shiny.

What do thye use? Is it worth it and does it offer any protection or is it just a bit of shiny bullcrap? 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD
RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it
VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys

Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD
Post #1032330 21st Apr 2024 4:41pm
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chpsk8



Member Since: 26 Sep 2023
Location: Midwest
Posts: 45

United States 
What color is your Defender? Some colors look flatter/less glossy than others. Mine is black and looks almost liquid after I wash it. I did ceramic coat it on day 2 of ownership and I'm sure that helps.
Post #1032338 21st Apr 2024 6:46pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20440

United Kingdom 
I don’t use snow foam, I wet it down, hand wash literally by hand nothing else under constant small amount of running water which is the time consuming part.
That way the running water and using the hand takes off the dirt without any scratches at all or rubbing anything all over it.
It is time consuming, polish very rarely, otherwise you take away the clear coat over time.
Then when I know it’s clean, hand wash with a combined wash and wax with a sponge.
Rinse off.

The time consuming part is cleaning off the dirt by hand, that’s just what I do, I’d never take a sponge or mitt just to dirty paintwork and off.
When you use your hand you know then that there will not be anything that can be collected to scratch.
Never wear watches or anything like that doing it either.

I normally rinse out underneath beforehand, again using hose water pressure I don’t use a pressure washer at all.
I tend to do it in stages over a few days, depends how much time you want to put in.
I do the underneath one day, clean it all off the next, wash it the day after and that’s a it really.

Main products I use is just wash and wax and interior detailer, once in a blue moon allow when cleaner but that’s about it really.
Show glaze can be good, but that’s if you wan to go the extra mile and adds more work.

On my 90 that’s Stornaway Grey I have gone back to Meguiars yellow carnuba Wash and wax, I like the finish the most looks great and lasts well.
Tried the hybrid stuff, not keen on it.
Wash and wax in one product is fast and works more regular for me.

Everyone has their own methods and likes and dislikes, and different brands etc.
Personally I don’t use a pressure washer because the pressure is too high, can damage and affect lighting with moisture ingress.
I don’t use snow foam as it can damage decals, rubber and other bits and pieces like TFR.
I wouldn’t use it again.
I don’t use tyre gels or anything to make the tyres slick, I think it harms the rubber long term.
Pity as it looks nice, but I think it affects the rubber and its longevity.

Clay bar kit can be good, but used very rarely indeed. And very carefully, again it is extremely time consuming and no room for errors.
If you have a 110 or larger, then I sympathise as you’ll have even more to do especially if it is a SW or HT.

Personally I do it for paint protection rather than to look good, but to complete both is nice.
I think some people do too much to it, I think you can do that as well.
I think the key is, to take off the dirty material most carefully is most important. Once that is off then you are on the way then.
As I said, I thin everyone has their own methods, I wince when people just take a spine to a dirty car and rub it off with it kind of thing.
I prefer Meguiars, Autoglym is pretty good too. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1032342 21st Apr 2024 7:37pm
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Soup Dragon



Member Since: 22 Sep 2023
Location: Cheshire
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I’m also a big fan of Meguiar's Ultimate Car Wash & Wax - tried different products but keep coming back to this. Might be worth a try. My Defender is treated with Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra - really makes the Tasman Blue pop.
Post #1032359 21st Apr 2024 9:08pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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Gtechniq is good for glass I’ve heard, but I’ve never tried it.
I use rain x spray on glass, and rain x pre mixed washer fluid. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1032360 21st Apr 2024 9:17pm
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Moo



Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1399

Ukraine 
Shocked You're washing it! Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #1032363 21st Apr 2024 11:06pm
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LR Nuts



Member Since: 10 Aug 2022
Location: UK
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many people above bought the wrong vehicle ........it's a Land Rover, if it is NOT muddy ...... then you ae not using it properly !!!
Post #1032364 21st Apr 2024 11:09pm
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Co1



Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3678

United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
I spray on a protector wax with the foam lance after I’ve washed it. Makes it shiney, but also stops the dirt sticking for a while after, therefore prolonging the need for the next wash!

This stuff: https://www.shopnshine.co.uk/products/koch...gL4-_D_BwE
Post #1032367 22nd Apr 2024 5:18am
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2839

United Kingdom 
After washing the Defender l use a spray on product called Demon Shine.

You just spray it on and wipe off with a damp cloth. After that the vehicle looks great, also the wax coating repels water and dirt.

lt's really easy to use. l've used various sprays and products over the years but this one has been the best by far.

l am sure there are similar products available. This one only lasts until the next time you wash the vehicle.
Post #1032379 22nd Apr 2024 8:01am
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Badeagle



Member Since: 27 Aug 2022
Location: London
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England 
I snow foam, leave to soak for 5 minutes, then jet wash off.
Next I wash using a sheep fleece mitt and rinse using hosepipe.
Then I dry with a hot filtered air dryer.
Finally apply wax with sponge wipe off with damp microfibre cloth then buff with a dry one.
Use all Turtle Wax products.
Slick and Slide Pure wash, Graphene infused Flex Wax.
Super shiny and slippery.
My Car is Silicon silver. MY23 XS 110 D250
2003 Jeep Cherokee Limited
Post #1032466 22nd Apr 2024 8:08pm
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Moo



Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1399

Ukraine 
This is getting scary! Shocked

I take mine into the dealer for a service and it gets washed and thats annually!

Having said that, I was recently at my mother's for the weekend. Arrived late at night, parked on the drive only to be met the next morning with disappointment and horror by my mother with regards to how dirty my car was. Emergency call to her valeter and within an hour my car is getting a full days cleaning detailing! Laughing

Anyway, that'll see it right until its next service or I find a car wash thats not busy. Thumbs Up Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #1032482 22nd Apr 2024 11:15pm
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 820

Australia 
Two ways depending on the scenario..

When at home in the burbs, once every 2-3 weeks

Wet the vehicle
Use Bowdens nano car wash.. apply using a mit to give it a good clean
Thorough rinse
Dry with a detailers towel

Every 3-4 months apply xpel ceramic booster to the PPF

When on off-road/tours, then very 4-5 weeks or at the end of a trip

Rock up at a local self serve car wash centre, use all the cycles on the wash to blast the red dust out
Rinse and quick dry with a towel.. I never use an auto wash, just those where you do it yourself using
the lance.. yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #1032487 23rd Apr 2024 12:29am
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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Turtle wax has came up in the world I think.

One thing as I mentioned is a pain, is that you’ve got to be careful as to what you do use or some products can do more harm than good.
The UV level with last summers heat wasn’t good for clear coat.

I wash it about 2 or 3 times a year, stick to what I know is good mainly for paint protection than to look good.
Don’t forget prop greasing and hinges etc too. Wink
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Post #1032522 23rd Apr 2024 10:04am
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milesg7



Member Since: 13 Sep 2023
Location: Cheltenham
Posts: 67

United Kingdom 
If your paint is flat, try a clay bar / mitt carefully over the bodywork when the car is covered in thick suds, or with clay bar lube. You tube will show you how.

Then use a decent polish (I use Poorboys Black hole on my Carpathain), leave on until next wash, then either use a thick Wax (again, Poorboys Black Natty is good) then a sealant.

I had mine ceramic coated last year (myself) using Armor Sheil IX which is easy and works well. I top up every 12 months, but use Poorboys black hole and Black Natty Wax over it and it is awesome.

Glass has GTechniq shield G4
Interior has GTechniq protector on it
Tyres have Topaz Wheel black, matt and really deep black.

I take mine off road shooting regularly and it gets coated, but the above helps it get clean quicker and easier. Protects the paintwork etc.



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Post #1032540 23rd Apr 2024 12:19pm
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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Clay bar does work, one of those rare jobs though and one to be careful when doing.
Especially useful on horizontal paintwork such as roof and bonnet where detritus collects and adheres to the paint surface more.
Especially tree pollen or tree sap, I’m pretty sure it’s tree pollen that can accumulate into a black dust like cluster over time, usually on the bonnet on mine and added to that the warmth of the engine heats it up and helps bond contaminants on.

To be honest I think LR did quite well for paint. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1032555 23rd Apr 2024 2:37pm
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