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Two90s



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
Help Water Leaking into Passenger Footwell
Hi there we have a permanent puddle in the passenger footwell, I suspect water is leaking under the windscreen rubber (I can see traces of it coming in). What is the fix for this ? Do I need to get the windscreen rubber replaced ? Is this a screen out job ? I got fed up using silicone sealant everywhere for our 300 Tdi, I don't want to start doing it for the Puma.

Any ideas please ?

Thankyou. Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Will@LRW



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Yes, windscreen rubber can be a culprit if cracking at the corners.

Also, the front edge of the door window in the corner where it meets the seal, this can be filled with putty to stop water ingress.

Then there is the windscreen frame to bulkhead joint under the the door seal, which should be filled with putty. LR Workshop
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markb110



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Don’t forget the screen to bulkhead blocks.

Mine was leaking into the passenger footwell from there, even though I thought that it couldn’t be because I had changed the gasket the previous year. This time I did use silicone sealant along with new gaskets again.
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sasdiscos



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Or like me you could just give up, let it run in and then run out again. 😳
Post #1029078 23rd Mar 2024 4:55pm
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Do you have this for inspiration https://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Man...Manual.pdf
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Check clean or remove the air inlet duck bill drains, they fill up with water. There are 3x of them.
When they fill up with tree debris and dirt, water comes in and runs through.

I find they are best removed over winter and put back in summer, or just left out. No Guts, No Glory.
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Two90s



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mifa wrote:
Do you have this for inspiration https://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Man...Manual.pdf


No I have never seen that book, it is fascinating. In 21 years of Defender ownership. They really can leak from everywhere. Our 300 Tdi leaked from the sunroof and roof seams into the headlining, and when you moved the vehicle it dumped cold water in your lap.

It was a nice start to the day.

Usually I give up, and let it run out, but this vehicle is too nice. Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Two90s



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custom90steve wrote:
Check clean or remove the air inlet duck bill drains, they fill up with water. There are 3x of them.
When they fill up with tree debris and dirt, water comes in and runs through.

I find they are best removed over winter and put back in summer, or just left out.


Thank you that is a good suggestion, I only found one duck bill drain, it was completely clogged. I did not realise there were others. Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Two90s



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sasdiscos wrote:
Or like me you could just give up, let it run in and then run out again. 😳


Yes, I used to do that in the 300 Tdi, but the Puma is too nice. Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Two90s



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markb110 wrote:
Don’t forget the screen to bulkhead blocks.

Mine was leaking into the passenger footwell from there, even though I thought that it couldn’t be because I had changed the gasket the previous year. This time I did use silicone sealant along with new gaskets again.


That is a good call, I will buy some fresh Dum Dum putty on eBay, my old tin of Dum Dum is solid. Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Two90s



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Will@LRW wrote:
Yes, windscreen rubber can be a culprit if cracking at the corners.

Also, the front edge of the door window in the corner where it meets the seal, this can be filled with putty to stop water ingress.

Then there is the windscreen frame to bulkhead joint under the the door seal, which should be filled with putty.


Thank you I will buy some fresh putty. I prefer that to silicone sealant, which always looks messy. (at least when I do it.) Puma 90 XS Station Wagon in Keswick Green 2012 2.2 Tdci
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Millerdark



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Also consider tiger seal and Captain Tolleys.
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custom90



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I have used tiger seal, captain trolleys and dum dum,
as mentioned above all are good products that works.

Also, it’s worth checking the windscreen bulkhead blocks, they can leak as well, plus the windscreen screen frame lower to bulkhead foam seal.
If it’s the foam seal, then the captain trolleys is probably best, dum dum is okay in corners and entires etc.
I would leave the tiger seal as a last option, but it would work.
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