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df1



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is it possible to get an internal rear view mirror with a shorter arm ?

The original causes a significant blind spot to the left.
Post #102275 24th Nov 2011 7:13pm
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MuddyMarky



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
I think the requirement is for at least two mirrors - so one inside and one out, or two outside. If you think about it, there are plenty of vehicles in which an internal rear view mirror wouldn't serve any purpose.


My thoughts were if there is a rear window in the vehicle (as I said in my post).....I can't really think of many reasons why an interior mirror wouldn't be any use if you can see out of the back Rolling with laughter Mark
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Post #102280 24th Nov 2011 7:22pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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There aren't, but that still doesn't make it an MoT requirement. Darren

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Post #102334 24th Nov 2011 9:54pm
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KPNuts



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df1 wrote:
is it possible to get an internal rear view mirror with a shorter arm ?

The original causes a significant blind spot to the left.

I was going to post exactly the same question. 2010 110 Utility Station Wagon
1996 110 Station Wagon
Post #102398 25th Nov 2011 9:36am
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farmer giles



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i have never heard or seen any rear view mirror that is compatible with a shorter arm.
if you do find one bear in mind that the sun visors will require cutting down.
Post #102413 25th Nov 2011 11:14am
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AlpenAndes



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Austria 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Belize Green
An old thread, but I was looking for a rear view mirror with a shorter bracket. Guys in a german forum said old Opel Corsa A and Kadett mirrors, http://www.ebay.de/itm/OPEL-Kadett-Corsa-I...e64968edd, fit when you widen the holes. I asked if some one can show a picture how that looks installed.

Anybody here got some experience with that already?

BR
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Post #164371 25th Aug 2012 6:00pm
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Tony



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
I also found the original mirror arm to be too long so I removed it and fitted a smaller mirror right at the top of the screen and slightly offset to the passenger side, which has really improved the view out of the windscreen. The mirror (Summit) has plain glass and was about 6 quid from Halfords, but they also do a wider dipping one with prismatic glass which in hindsight might have been a better choice.




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Post #165350 30th Aug 2012 1:38pm
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donmacn



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blackwolf wrote:
The law nowadays requires a minimum of two rear view mirrors, one of which must be external and on the offside of the vehicle.

It doesn't matter where the other is, so it can be external on the left or internal.

There is no maximum, so provided that forward visibility isn't compromised, you could go for the "mod moped" look if you wanted.

I am not actually aware of any reason why your two mirrors couldn't both be external and on the offside.


I did a search for "rear view" and MOT and this thread is what I found.

With the spare mounted on a wheel carrier; a security grille on the back window; and a dog guard; and an interior roof level shelf, the view out of the rear view mirror is pretty rubbish.

I'm thinking of getting a good dashcam, and maybe fabricating a bracket to mount it into the fixing plate for the rear view mirror, and doing away with the rear view altogether. I can manage quite happily with the two side mirrors.

This thread is a bit old though, so is the law the same or have the recent MOT changes brought anything else into the mix?

Thanks as usual. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
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Mash



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df1 wrote:
is it possible to get an internal rear view mirror with a shorter arm ?

The original causes a significant blind spot to the left.



I took my original arm cut about an inch out, drilled both parts and inserted a stud, glued the two back together using e-metal. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
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Think I might have a problem............
Post #761139 28th Feb 2019 9:28am
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LandRoverAnorak



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Cars and Dual Purpose Vehicles first used after 26/01/2010 are required by law to be fitted with offside and near side external mirrors AND an internal mirror (unless the internal mirror cannot provide an adequate view to the rear). The proviso is referring to things such as solid bulkheads rather than how you have loaded your vehicle for example.

For vehicles registered before then, the law requires a minimum of two mirrors, one of which must be on the off side. The other can either be internal or on the near side. Darren

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Post #761144 28th Feb 2019 9:47am
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2010Blackdefender90



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Naks wrote:
speaking of which, can one get one of those fancy auto-dimming mirrors that will fit in the Defender?


https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CLSVZ53/ref...9522378929

I have one of these. 👍🏻
Post #761212 28th Feb 2019 4:16pm
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donmacn



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Thanks Darren - that's really helpful. Off it comes then - mine's a 1994 so no worries. I hope I'll get a much better fitting for the dashcam this way. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #761290 28th Feb 2019 10:13pm
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