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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
New BFG AT incoming (KO3)
Exciting news for us tyre fetishists, the next gen BFG AT is coming next year. Grabbed from their website…



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 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS


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Post #1004526 17th Aug 2023 6:39pm
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blackwolf



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Bet they don't offer it in 255/85x16 though. Big Cry
Post #1004528 17th Aug 2023 6:43pm
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NickMc



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It’ll probably be £450 a corner by next year at this rate too Laughing
Post #1004533 17th Aug 2023 6:55pm
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Defendit..



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Only available in two sizes by now ( Bronco )

https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/...mp;slide=0

Pricing looks the same

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/bfgoodrich-all-terrain-t-a-ko3 No Mud flaps for my 90.!
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Post #1004561 18th Aug 2023 6:54am
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geobloke



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blackwolf wrote:
Bet they don't offer it in 255/85x16 though. Big Cry


Of course not Rolling with laughter Why would you supply something your customers want.
Post #1004566 18th Aug 2023 7:15am
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I Like Old Skool



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blackwolf wrote:
Bet they don't offer it in 255/85x16 though. Big Cry

geobloke wrote:
Of course not Rolling with laughter Why would you supply something your customers want.



Never been able to get my head around this. It just absolutely has got to sell like hot cakes. A sensible width 33-33.5" tyre that has road manners and practicality, coupled with adequate off-road performance for skilled users. Even more suitable given modern traction control.

There just has to be a good technical reason why they don't do it, there has to be?

They could almost charge what ever they like for this mythical perfect tyre.....
Post #1004691 18th Aug 2023 10:15pm
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I Like Old Skool



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Just to add, I have a special interest in this as my 2015 set of 5 x 255/86R16 KM2 MT's are getting to end of life and the equivalent AT would be the very top of the replacement list provided they didn't undersize them.

Come on BFG, You have maybe 1-2yrs to get your shizzle in order! Rolling Eyes
Post #1004693 18th Aug 2023 10:21pm
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Mini Landie



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I got worried by the title at first as I just fitted some BFG KM3s last week. Laughing

Looking at those sizes, they really know how to completely eliminate a large amount of their customer base on 16" wheels, don't they? I guess people will go for KO2s as long as they stay available, and then gravitate towards other brands - well done, BFG.

Also, I don't like that that Tire Rack website allows reviews for unreleased products... how can you review something you haven't even tried yet? 2003 90 TD5 Hardtop
Post #1004717 19th Aug 2023 8:14am
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blackwolf



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If enough of us left a review slamming them for not making 255/85x16 perhaps they'd get the message! Laughing
Post #1004721 19th Aug 2023 8:38am
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Puddings 3112



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Mini Landie wrote:
I got worried by the title at first as I just fitted some BFG KM3s last week. Laughing

Looking at those sizes, they really know how to completely eliminate a large amount of their customer base on 16" wheels, don't they? I guess people will go for KO2s as long as they stay available, and then gravitate towards other brands - well done, BFG.

Also, I don't like that that Tire Rack website allows reviews for unreleased products... how can you review something you haven't even tried yet?


I am sure that they started popping up with influencers at the back end of 22/early 23 and that is how they can claim verified user experience (taken to an experience camp plus a set for their mall crawlers).

There was chat on this forum at the time about the lack of stock of KO2's being related to what was expected to be a 2023 summer release for the KO3 so I wonder why they have pushed back into 2024 - OE prioritisation for all production or has there been production volume issues in the first batches stopping after market launch this year.
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jimbo55



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They have been prioritising OE and the US market, and in the grand scheme of things, the market for a 255 is actually very small compared to many of the other sizes they manufacture so not really surprising that they don’t offer it.
Post #1004814 20th Aug 2023 7:17am
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Chicken Drumstick



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I Like Old Skool wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Bet they don't offer it in 255/85x16 though. Big Cry

geobloke wrote:
Of course not Rolling with laughter Why would you supply something your customers want.



Never been able to get my head around this. It just absolutely has got to sell like hot cakes. A sensible width 33-33.5" tyre that has road manners and practicality, coupled with adequate off-road performance for skilled users. Even more suitable given modern traction control.

There just has to be a good technical reason why they don't do it, there has to be?

They could almost charge what ever they like for this mythical perfect tyre.....

I don't think it would sell like hot cakes. It isn't a factory size, so nobody bar those modding would be interested.

16" is also oddball for the USA. Jeeps and the like had 15" rims, then 17 and 18". They never really used 16" as a size.

And even the vehicles that do use it, such as Discos and RRs, it won't fit without lots of mods. So is really limited to only a handful of oddball vehicles in small markets.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more choice in this size as it is indeed great for a Defender. But the brutal reality is, the market for this size must be miniscule.
Post #1004837 20th Aug 2023 11:07am
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blackwolf



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It has always struck me as a little odd that BFG makes the KM in 255/85x16 but not the KO. Different markets, different demographics I guess, but it is frustrating.
Post #1004841 20th Aug 2023 11:44am
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Julie



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Same situation for 7.5R16

KM available
KO not available

Twisted Evil
Post #1004889 20th Aug 2023 7:47pm
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WilkoW



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Is it just me that finds KO2s a bit naff on wet tarmac? I’ve gone from 16” Cooper STs to 18” KO2s and whilst they’re quieter and decent enough for most off road surfaces, in the wet they don’t fill me with confidence.
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