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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 311  
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..and I'm afraid, that's not going to happen, it never happens...only in a perfect world, from which we are increasingly farther away, of course!! Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
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26th Mar 2025 11:33pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17698  
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It is also curious, is it not, that on the one hand we are encouraged to be "green" and "save the planet" (which, incidentally, will be just fine for billions of years after the human race has exterminated itself) yet on the other we have headlights which cost £2400 to replace, are complex electronic assemblies with some extremely nasty materials involved, have a huge manufacturing cost and complex process, and are on the whole totally unrecyclable, because this is somehow better than a small metal part with a tiny glass bulb containing minute quantities of an inert but admittedly harmful gas, which costs pennies to make and is almost 100% recyclable.
How on earth is this better for the environment? And don't get me started on EV batteries....  |
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27th Mar 2025 9:33am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Woodford Posts: 1125 
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Hey Blackwolf I completely agree with you on this. I told the dealer to stick his £2400 headlamp where the led’s don’t shine.
It’s frankly disgusting that LR and lots of other brands make components unrepairable, when quite obviously they are. Why? It’s obviously a cost saver to the manufacturer. They will sell more units because most will not have the basic mechanical experience of you and I to question the ‘official’ line of not repairable. It’s not a complicated unit, there’s not much in there. From what he was saying, it’s all major manufacturers doing this now. Interesting question came up in the pub, are Ineos sticking to the old LR principal of repairable in the field? Or are their headlamp sealed for life? 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV 1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy |
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27th Mar 2025 12:37pm |
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| Fifth Horseman Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 333 
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From what I've seen it's a sealed unit. As for "repairable in the field", despite their initial messaging IA still have not released workshop manuals to owners, see here: https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/work....12411552/
@blackwolf - I'm with you on EV batteries Defender 110 D300 X-Dynamic HSE MY22 |
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27th Mar 2025 1:07pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17698
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I believe that the Grenadier headlights are the same units (classic) Defender owners tend to fit as LED upgrades, so not repairable but easily replaceable in minutes anywhere. You could probably upgrade a Grenadier to Wipac Crystals with Osram Nightbreakers if you wanted.
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28th Mar 2025 6:40pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1224  
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Had a look at these Osram nightbreakers going to give them a shot. It's not £2444 ( per side ) but probably better than the bog standard halogen light I currently have fitted.
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28th Mar 2025 7:37pm |
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