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bodstruck

Member Since: 09 May 2020
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 922

CDL - Puma Drivers Door Wiring Functions

I am fitting puma doors to my 200tdi I am attempting to wire in the CDL. All 5 doors have factory actuators and wiring. My plan was to use part of the Hawk CDL ( https://www.hawkcaralarm.com/catalog/unive...ocking-kit _ set ) I had previously bought and wire it direct to the factory actuators rather than the hawk supplied ones.

Passenger and rear doors are not a problem - just two wires. The drivers one is giving me pause for thought. I do want to have all doors unlock if the front drivers key is used instead of the fob, therein lies the problem

The factory actuator on the drivers door has 4 wires, the hawk one has 5. The functions of the 5 wires on the hawk setup are:

Earth
One pair for lock/unlock (same as all the other actuators)
Another pair for Lock and unlock input (triggers rest of locks)

The factory one:

Earth
One pair for lock/unlock (Orange and pink)
One other Yellow with pink trace

One big difference in my setup will be the lack of 10AS unit, which I assume does some clever(ish) stuff to trigger lock/unlock on the other doors from a single wire.

Has anyone wired in such a setup on an older Defender? Any tips on how I make a 4 wire actuator work with a system made for 5?

Thanks

21st Oct 2024 4:32pm

bodstruck

Member Since: 09 May 2020
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 922

Anyone?

My fall back will be to just wire up the drivers door with 2 wires so it operates on the fob with the rest of them but locking or unlocking it does not trigger the rest of the actuators.

But I would rather wire it so that it does.

Anyone know what the functions of each of the 4 wires in the factory drivers door actuator are please?

16th Dec 2024 5:41pm

macfrank

Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
Location: somewhere in the north
Posts: 1081

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Here's the TD4 CDL wiring diagram:

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The yellow/pink wire is connected to ground when the key or inside lock button is used.

This is picked up by the AS10/ALM which then decides what to do depending on the current state of doors and alarm.

For example if you locked the doors with the key, the alarm is disabled and turning the key will unlock the CDL. If the car was locked with the key fob instead, the alarm is on and using the key (or inside button) will trigger the alarm and, obviously, not unlock the doors

16th Dec 2024 8:49pm

bodstruck

Member Since: 09 May 2020
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 922

Thank you.
I thought it may have been the AS10 that did the logic to decide to lock or unlock . The CDL controller I have has a separate trigger wire for lock and unlock, hence the 5 wires instead of 4.

Looks like it needs to be plan B then and just have it working on the fob

16th Dec 2024 11:39pm

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