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phillips321



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Tracking sorted, but still pulling to the left
Hi all,

My defender tracking was sorted but it still pulls to the left.

My wheel bearings are good.

How do I check my radius arm bushes?

Kind regards
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Shafski



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Montalcino Red
Mine used to do that, turns out the top mount bearing had failed. Shafski
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2015 110 Montalcino Red Utility "Harriet" along with Puma on I.C.E
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BaronDefenders



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
Another thought: possibly a binding brake calliper on one side? Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
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Post #1046362 21st Sep 2024 7:01am
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landy andy



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Where is the top mount bearing on a Defender ???

What’s the steering box centred when it was tracked? Or have they just tracked the wheels to each other?
Post #1046386 21st Sep 2024 11:29am
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pjm-84



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I had two vehicles do this for years. Both were related to the tyres. Stupidly cured one vehicle and put the same brand / tyre on the other..... and had the same problem.
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Different tread depth, tyre age, balance etc can do these kind of things. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1046410 21st Sep 2024 5:45pm
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Chris86



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 USW Chawton White
Re: Tracking sorted, but still pulling to the left
phillips321 wrote:
Hi all,

My defender tracking was sorted but it still pulls to the left.

My wheel bearings are good.

How do I check my radius arm bushes?

Kind regards


Ideally on a ramp, stick a lever bar in between the axle and the radius arm and apply some pressure. Compare one side to the other.

When the tracking was done did they check the steering wheel position relative to road wheel position and the condition of all the ball joints etc?

Is it under load or braking it's most noticeable, or does it follow camber or poor road surfaces?

-Check the panhard rod bushes
-Check tyre pressures and wear condition all round
-Check for wear in the swivel pins
-Check for wear in the a frame bushes, trailing arms and a frame ball joint- the bushes on the a-frame in particular can give a weird passive rear-wheel steering and pulling feeling as they deteriorate.

Hope some of this helps, it can be a pain to track down the cause on defenders as it's often cumulative things.

Chris
Post #1046412 21st Sep 2024 5:57pm
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
All the above but also do you trust whoever did your wheel alignment? I only ask as I was having issues despite getting it done multiple times and it was only sorted when I took it to a motorsport and Defender specialist. It was a revelation and has gone from wayward to handling on rails. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
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markb110



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Might be worth removing the steering damper and cycling the travel to ensure that it is moving as it should.

Secondly, is your damper a version fitted with a spring, the yoke that holds it does have a habit of allowing the spring to rotate, come out of the yoke and push the steering to one side.

Failing that you could try a tyre rotation.
Post #1046428 21st Sep 2024 9:10pm
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Shafski



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Montalcino Red
landy andy wrote:
Where is the top mount bearing on a Defender ???

What’s the steering box centred when it was tracked? Or have they just tracked the wheels to each other?


Top pin bearing! You can see my mind was elsewhere! Big Cry Shafski
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2015 110 Montalcino Red Utility "Harriet" along with Puma on I.C.E
Post #1046439 22nd Sep 2024 7:07am
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phillips321



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2005 Defender 110 2.5 TD DCPU Belize Green
Shafski wrote:
Mine used to do that, turns out the top mount bearing had failed.


How can I check this top swivel pin bearing? When hacked up and on axle stands the wheel/steering feels solid.
Post #1048381 11th Oct 2024 4:12pm
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jst



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Re: Tracking sorted, but still pulling to the left
Chris86 wrote:
phillips321 wrote:
Hi all,

My defender tracking was sorted but it still pulls to the left.

My wheel bearings are good.

How do I check my radius arm bushes?

Kind regards


Ideally on a ramp, stick a lever bar in between the axle and the radius arm and apply some pressure. Compare one side to the other.

When the tracking was done did they check the steering wheel position relative to road wheel position and the condition of all the ball joints etc?

Is it under load or braking it's most noticeable, or does it follow camber or poor road surfaces?

-Check the panhard rod bushes
-Check tyre pressures and wear condition all round
-Check for wear in the swivel pins
-Check for wear in the a frame bushes, trailing arms and a frame ball joint- the bushes on the a-frame in particular can give a weird passive rear-wheel steering and pulling feeling as they deteriorate.

Hope some of this helps, it can be a pain to track down the cause on defenders as it's often cumulative things.

Chris


What Chris said and the bold bit. ? Cheers

James
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Post #1048413 11th Oct 2024 8:05pm
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phillips321



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2005 Defender 110 2.5 TD DCPU Belize Green
Is it under load or braking it's most noticeable, or does it follow camber or poor road surfaces?

Yes 100% more noticeable when accelerating or braking and on poor road surfaces:
Post #1048592 14th Oct 2024 7:44am
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phillips321



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Re: Tracking sorted, but still pulling to the left
jst wrote:


Is it under load or braking it's most noticeable, or does it follow camber or poor road surfaces?

What Chris said and the bold bit. ?


Yes defo this.
Post #1048593 14th Oct 2024 7:45am
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