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rustandoil



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Correct name for this "trailer" connector
I have a couple of these to sell, but it would be nice to call it by the correct name before posting in the for sale section...

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90 Dreamer



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its a 7pin towing socket.......12N being the "code" I believe
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Martin
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It's a 12S aux/supplemental 7 pin socket.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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blackwolf



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That's actually a 12S socket not a 12N, and is used for the supplementary connections needed for wobble-boxes and the like. It is not used for normal trailer lights etc.

The distinguishing feature is that a 12S has 5 female and 2 male contacts whilst a 12N has 4 female and 3 male, the central pin being male on the N and female on the S.

Ha, Martin's post and mine were concurrent! Rolling with laughter
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Ner Ner  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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custom90



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And now they’ve all been updated to new style all in one sockets, which don’t match many trailers, and thus you then need an adaptor.
And some trailers are LED, some typical incandescent light bulb units and boards which doesn’t always work properly with towing vehicle. Thud
Rolling with laughter

So now there is backward capability adapts needed, plus the added issue of different lighting types. Rolling with laughter
Personally I’d have thought it would have made sense to have had all in one anyway, not separate 12N and 12S. No Guts, No Glory.
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mini Anaconda



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Had that problem the other week. Hired a trailer which had a 13 pin plug, but I only have a 7 pin socket on the Land Rover with no adpator available at the time. Mad BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group
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rustandoil



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Thank you chaps.... I will list them as 12S with pictures Thumbs Up
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90 Dreamer



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blackwolf wrote:
That's actually a 12S socket not a 12N, and is used for the supplementary connections needed for wobble-boxes and the like. It is not used for normal trailer lights etc.

The distinguishing feature is that a 12S has 5 female and 2 male contacts whilst a 12N has 4 female and 3 male, the central pin being male on the N and female on the S.

Ha, Martin's post and mine were concurrent! Rolling with laughter


my bad, should have noticed the colour as the std 12N style is Black and this 12S is always an off White colour........... Embarassed
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blackwolf



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Martin wrote:
Ner Ner


I didn't know we had that emoticon available! I'll have to remember that.... Laughing
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jim4244



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Hi all

I never tow but my 90 has these 2 sockets fitted.

So the black socket would be used for towing and the white one to supply auxiliary power to whatever I was towing? Is that correct?



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Jim
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blackwolf



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Yes, in practice only caravans use the supplementary socket.

What a ridiculous place to fit the sockets!
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jim4244



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Yes.... It does seem a strange place..

Maybe the chap who fitted them had a bad back and didn't like bending down? Laughing

Jim
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blackwolf



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And a very long lead on his trailer!
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