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Bluest



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DIY sand blasting
Anybody ever tried.one of these for removing rust and powder coat.

https://www.toolstation.com/draper-portabl...ity/p77804

I've been given one for free and thinking of tackling my flakey bumper and A bar. I have a DIY grade 100l compressor to power it. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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blackwolf



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I haven't used one like that but have met similar devices. I'm sorry to say that that kind of "hobby" blaster is generally less useful than a chocolate teapot.
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Mo Murphy



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Powder coat is notoriously difficult to blast off with hobby kit even commercial blasters are not fans as its so time consuming. It'll be good for brightening and cleaning small castings and little bits and bobs.
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Powder coatings are usually best burnt off above the temperature of the plastic (usually PA) melts at then blasted to clean up the metal.
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A Poly strip disc or wheel such as these work really well:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404815706136
The problem is when you get corners, inverted edges and parts where you cannot get it into.
A Dremel is possible to use for those parts then though, but, depends how much time you’ve got and how much there is to do when it comes to taking off powder coat.
This is why I prefer paint, as at least with paint it’s quicker to refinish and that’s enough work in its self but doesn’t come with the pain of wasting hours removing PC.
If the surface is good, you can primer over it and finish the edges with filler but it won’t always last.
Often cracks on the edge as the PC lifts underneath. Rolling Eyes

I would go for a mixture of red 3M sanding pads, hand sanding, poly wheel, and dremel.
Flap wheel might help a bit in some places

I’m not sure what type attachment would be best on the Dremel if you have one.

Some ideas anyway, the main thing is the time it takes. No Guts, No Glory.
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Bluest



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The item I need to redo is my tubular a-bar, so it's quite big and nealry all curved surfaces. The powder coat on the bar itself is still good, but the welded on brackets that mount it to the bumber have lost most of the PC due to the edges not being relieved before coating and the welds having little pimples poking through the PC.

I like the idea of burning off and then sanding off the residue, does that work well? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Dinnu



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I tried DIY sand blasters... really nasty... never again. So for rust removal I use an assortment of wire brushes, sand paper and rust removers, and electrolysis if possible.

For small items that fit in a 60l tank, I use electrolysis, then assortment of wire brushes on angle grinder and driller. I like the driller as can reverse rotation, so the bristles dont polish the rust! and then chemical rust removal. I find a product Hg Rust remover very effective. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Mo Murphy



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I have a brand new boxed Masai A bar which I bought and changed my mind on. It was the nearest size and shape to genuine that I could find and is zinc under the powder coat. It could save you a lot of work !
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Muddybigdog



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I have never used but this laser rust remover looks pretty handy thing to hire

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Bluest



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Mo Murphy wrote:
I have a brand new boxed Masai A bar which I bought and changed my mind on. It was the nearest size and shape to genuine that I could find and is zinc under the powder coat. It could save you a lot of work !
Mo


Thanks, but I'm determined to save this one. Probably be a winter project now. I might do a little test of the burn then sand technique on an inconspicuous area.

I do remember attempting to remove the powder coat from some side steps with just abrasive wheels and I gave up. I'd have spent more on abrasive than the cost of the steps. Is there no solvent that could melt it off?

That laser removal thing above would be a menace, I'd be pointing it at everything and everyone like laser gun. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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I find Trimite paint remover very effective. Wear good gloves as it burns skin like getting a taste of hell.

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That laser removal thing above would be a menace, I'd be pointing it at everything and everyone like laser gun.

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julian



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Powder is so rubbish -

Leave it outside for a while and the steel will rust out below the powder without any effort, but, try and strip it, and there's always a patch.


I would torch the thing and then clean up the residue.

Or take it to someone who has more than a diy setup for blasting.


(I have over 20cfm here and I still wouldn't bother trying to blast it)
Post #1038358 25th Jun 2024 11:49am
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