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Avelingporter



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Help - Dead 90
I think I need your collective help please. I’m great with mechanical, but really dumb when it comes to electricery!!! It’s a 2016 90 we are talking about.

After a run of 90 miles each way last weekend, all was good. A thrash home on Sunday evening should have cleared out the dpf as well. Then parked up in my modern very tight garage. It has barely enough room to get the 90 in and me out.

I went to get it out this evening. Key in ignition and nothing. I mean absolutely nothing. No dash lights, no starter struggling with a low battery…. Zilch happening. I stuck my charger on the battery, one of those modern type chargers. Left it for three hours. Came back and it’s making a rapid clicking noise. I disconnected the charger, noise stopped. One red led below the rev, flashing. But still nothing at all when I tried the ignition again. I have no idea where the clicking came from as it’s too tight in the garage to get around the vehicle. It’s dark outside and downhill. So don’t want to get it out, as I won’t be able to get back in.

Help please, where do I start in the morning?

Thanks.



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Post #1037978 20th Jun 2024 10:58pm
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sasdiscos



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Alternator gone and Censored the battery?

Maybe disconnect and put on charge overnight and then see.

Steve.
Post #1037980 20th Jun 2024 11:10pm
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
It's possible the clicking after charging was the stater motor solenoid. Just not enough current to turn it over.

Disconnect battery and charge overnight.
Try a different battery/jump start
Disconnect alternator output and start it.
Check current draw from charged battery to sm and alt. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #1037997 21st Jun 2024 7:40am
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landy andy



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Sounds like your battery is dead. Does your charger provide any info on the battery condition?
Post #1037998 21st Jun 2024 7:41am
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Avelingporter



Member Since: 25 Jan 2016
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Thanks for the replies, I have disconnected the battery and am currently charging it. I will report back any progress.

If a discharged battery, it may have failed, thats fine I can deal with that. If its another cause that drained it then I'll be more stuck. But we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

Lets see how a charge works first.
Post #1038013 21st Jun 2024 10:43am
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landy andy



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Either your battery is knackered, or something was left on when you parked it up. Hopefully you just left something on, but it may still cost you a new battery
Post #1038015 21st Jun 2024 10:53am
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Avelingporter



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Well for now it all appears OK again. Ive charged it since this morning and 7 hours later it works. Other than the alarm going off when I reconnected the battery terminals, nothing else untoward. Starts OK. All dash lights as they should be.
I have to leave it tonight, so will have another look on Saturday evening when I get back and see what's occurring! Ill report back if anything else happens. Thanks all. D
Post #1038050 21st Jun 2024 3:36pm
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custom90



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Probably battery voltage too low, it’ll take over a day to charge depending on what charger is used.
Then needs re-syncing the key fob by pressing it rapidly multiple times.
Once the LED dash light slows down, then ensure its immobilised pressing unlock once, then you can start it after the glow plug lights gone out.

Also be sure the battery clamps are tight, and the ground lead in particular and its connections.

If that still doesn’t do it, then it maybe starter or a deceased battery.
You really need to keep an eye on what voltage the battery is, check it and take a look if you can. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #1038072 21st Jun 2024 7:52pm
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Dinnu



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I have a cheap USB charger that goes in the cigarette lighter. It also shows voltage. 12.7~12.8V engine off that jumps to ~14V when engine is running. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1038091 22nd Jun 2024 5:51am
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LR90XS2011



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Hi I had exactly the same, cost me a new battery and a load of fault finding, found nothing wrong and it fixed itself.

I have concluded that I probably left the side light or interior lights on as it has been AOK since (6 months) and the old battery is now a spare DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #1038092 22nd Jun 2024 5:57am
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GREENI



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Just buy a new battery, it will happen again if not… in a bad place.
Post #1038093 22nd Jun 2024 7:00am
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semdgw



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Blenheim Silver
I have found that running the "recon" setting on my CTEK MX5 battery charger for 24-36 hours works wonders when I have inadvertently flattened a battery.

It has saved me money several times over the years.
Post #1038441 26th Jun 2024 9:48am
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Martin
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It could well be ok now, but if it's got that flat then it's likely to let you down when winter comes.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
Post #1038447 26th Jun 2024 11:22am
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TexasRover



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Agree, certain things are consumables that need changing as soon as there is any indication of failure. Saves a lot of hassle and makes any troubleshooting so much easier.

Battery definitely on that list, so is radiator, starter, alternator, clutch, brakes, etc
Post #1038453 26th Jun 2024 12:26pm
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custom90



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Yuasa 019 is good, slight upgrade on the original battery. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧
Post #1038454 26th Jun 2024 12:54pm
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