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Soup Dragon



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Rear wheel / all wheel steering
Rear wheel / all wheel steering is available on some or all models of the new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport.

Personally I’d welcome this feature on the Defender:
- I find the current turning circle of 13.1 m pretty rubbish, making multi storey car parks no-go areas
- Might improve higher speed handling and responsiveness
- I’m sure that it would be useful in extreme off-road scenarios

I suspect we are too far into the Model Year cycle for JLR to introduce it, the engineering changes wouldn’t be trivial. Maybe the OCTA has it? But I’d much prefer AWS to cosmetic options like running boards or 22” wheels.

Any thoughts?
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
This is what you need.

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Post #1035849 27th May 2024 8:17pm
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Moo



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Re: Rear wheel / all wheel steering
Soup Dragon wrote:
Rear wheel / all wheel steering is available on some or all models of the new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport.

Personally I’d welcome this feature on the Defender:
- I find the current turning circle of 13.1 m pretty rubbish, making multi storey car parks no-go areas
- Might improve higher speed handling and responsiveness
- I’m sure that it would be useful in extreme off-road scenarios

I suspect we are too far into the Model Year cycle for JLR to introduce it, the engineering changes wouldn’t be trivial. Maybe the OCTA has it? But I’d much prefer AWS to cosmetic options like running boards or 22” wheels.

Any thoughts?


Confused Never have an issue manoeuvring day to day or in any multi-storey car park unless its height restricted. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #1035859 27th May 2024 10:15pm
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RDR



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The rear steer on my l460 was an unexpected highlight of ownership. It made the car so much better at low speed and parking. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #1036137 30th May 2024 6:04pm
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XplusYplusZ



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Zed wrote:
This is what you need.


Laughing

I don't really understand the mechanics, but I would imagine it would compromise ground clearance a bit. I'd imagine it adds some additional potential points of failure in the suspension too, right?
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Cheshire110



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I’ve always found the turning circle of the new defender to be pretty impressive actually (suppose that’s because my last car was a ‘classic’ 110!) and actually find it quite manoeuvrable around London

Certainly better than the Grenadier or Land Cruiser V8 etc which I sometimes drive.

My instinct is that rear wheel steering might be nice sometimes but I’d rather not have the extra cost and complexity in the long run… Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.
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Nuclear Nick



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Agreed, I think the turning circle of my 90 V8 is pretty good for such a large 4WD vehicle.
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
I saw the 4ws actually working on a Range Rover that turned right in front of me the other day. I actually thought for a nano second he’d hoofed it too hard and was oversteering, then it clicked, could see the rear wheels turning, quite impressive. My uncle had a Honda Prelude decades ago that did the same thing. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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