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HAWKEYE



Member Since: 20 Mar 2022
Location: kent
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
2.4tdci Puma 40k miles recorded
Blue grey smoking on cold start up. Clears on short run, then ok. New turbo recently replace due to over boost recorded several time/lack of power/limp mode but no warning light. new turbo cured lack of power.
VCV valve replaced last year as MAF & cleaned often.
Main issue is cold start smoking? Otherwise running well (so far).
Post #1031510 14th Apr 2024 12:15pm
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jim4244



Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
I would be tempted to chuck a bottle of Forte Diesel System Cleaner into the tank and see if that makes any difference?

Jim
Post #1031516 14th Apr 2024 1:21pm
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
I wouldn’t worry about it. Bit of cold start smoke is normal on a Puma with multiple threads on here supporting that. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1031518 14th Apr 2024 1:30pm
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HAWKEYE



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
Thanks. In day's gone by , worn valve guides would be a contender with high mileage. Mine's very low, but does sit around for several weeks at a time. Idle for nearly two years during Covid. Probably what caused turbo/vane failure. I do use system cleaner now and then. Have to give it a blast to clear it out.
Cheers
Post #1031521 14th Apr 2024 2:03pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Idling engines is very bad (unless you are forced to) Puma 110" SW

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Post #1031525 14th Apr 2024 2:41pm
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custom90



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MAP sensor been checked? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1031535 14th Apr 2024 3:44pm
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Ianh



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Just a thought, but It could be a glow plug issue.

If you use an odb2 code reader you should see diagnostic trouble codes for the glow plugs if they are faulty. I.e P0380 / P0670. Noting a glow plug issue won’t necessarily bring up a check engine light and the glow plug light can operate as normal even if there is an issue.

Things to check are the 60A fuse in the drivers seat box and the glow plug relay and wiring . If they are ok then testing the resistance of the glow plugs is next.
Post #1031537 14th Apr 2024 4:07pm
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custom90



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That’s true, glow plugs failure when cold can cause that kind of thing.
Funny you say that as I was going to mention that but thought I’d mention the MAP sensor first as it’s easy to check and clean really. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #1031540 14th Apr 2024 4:50pm
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Waka56



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I have unfortunatly nothing more to bring to the subject, but I was wondering if the turbo gave any signs of weakness or was it just working normally until the limp mode came? I'm having the limp mode with no lights to. Making my Defender great again. (Or trying to at least xD)
Post #1031552 14th Apr 2024 5:33pm
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HAWKEYE



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
the loss of power usually happened either after long fast run. Also, on odd days, strangely, if a wet day on first start up? Engine sounded clattery (bag of spanners) Clearly not a happy bunny didn't like wet days! More recently initially without amber light coming on. It then became more often couple of miles into a journey. Cured by pulling over, switch off and back on engine. Thereafter, back to normal until next trip out. Codes recorded - Turbo over-boost. So far, not happened again follwing tubo replacement on fairly fast run to France. Felt like differnt vehicle altogether. Just the initial start up & short drive blue/grey smoke to sort. Clears quite quickly- then gone once driving. I'll check glow plugs. Would make sence if not up to scratch - unburnt fuel/oil? Many thanks for info'
Post #1031600 15th Apr 2024 7:55am
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