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| The Phantom Menace Member Since: 15 Feb 2024 Location: Antwerp Posts: 11  
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I am also interested in this thread. I am also currently using the default settings, but I will soon start working with the changes you submitted to see if they suit my music style. Spec: Land Rover New Defender 110 X-Dynamic SE - P400
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10th Mar 2024 11:20pm |
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| Luca Member Since: 13 Feb 2023 Location: Lancashire Posts: 22 
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Mine seems to have a crackle sound coming from the passenger side front when the volume is turned up.
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15th Apr 2024 5:47pm |
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| CincyRovers1 Member Since: 30 Nov 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 84 
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 Click image to enlarge ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง ๐ (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐.๐ (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone |
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21st Nov 2024 5:00pm |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 158
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At most this meridian is crap. I wonder if Meridian has done any reasearch for sound quality, specific to the Defender.
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21st Nov 2024 7:31pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1403 
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Coming from a Volvo XC90 with a B&W system, anything will be poor, but LR's bean counters have done an exceptional job of specifying a really 54IT system. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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21st Nov 2024 10:06pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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You can try keeping the bass flat in the middle, the other settings are fine.
When you turn up the bass, you get distortion, and youโll then get poor SQ at volume. Distortion isnโt good audibly, and also causes damage long term. Any crackle is often poor grounding or loose contacts, on the speaker end is more common due to opening and shutting doors and things like that. No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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21st Nov 2024 10:13pm |
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| CincyRovers1 Member Since: 30 Nov 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 84
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The Meridian systems are not as good as they were in the previous generation JLR products, like the L405, L462, L494, X361 XJ, X260 XF etc. I don't think its crap, though - I installed a layer of dynamat on every door panel, and it made a significant difference; and this is coming from someone who has a $12,000 Revel surround sound/theater system in my basement.
My biggest issue with the 400-watt system in my Defender is the lack of midrange. There are only two dedicated midrange speakers, and no settings to adjust the midrange, as it is bundled in the treble adjustment. A 7 or 9 band equalizer would be nice to have. I think the bass response is excellent, and the highs are crystal clear without being overly bright. The lack of surround sound doesn't bother me that much despite the Meridian Trifield being best in-car surround sound I've experienced. After all, almost all songs are recorded in stereo. The woofers and midrange speakers are just bad quality on the Defender. The woofer on the Defender is a 6.5" paper cone. My old D5 had an 8" polypropylene/fabric cone. It was a much higher-quality speaker. I looked at swapping over a set of these in the front doors as they are 2 ohms, but they are too big and won't fit. Replacing the bass & midrange speakers with 2 ohm replacements will also make it sound a lot better without having to replace the amplifier or going crazy with a fully custom system. The old 825-watt Meridian Surround system is just as good as the Volvo B&W in objective testing in sound pressure levels, harmonic distortion levels, frequency response etc. Although I do think the B&W in the Volvo sounded a little better than the Meridian. Shame that despite being good-looking and having an excellent stereo, everything Volvo currently makes are unreliable pieces of garbage. I had the 825-watt Surround in my old Discovery 5 and it was fantastic. The Meridian Trifield surround sound was the best setting of the three, with the others being Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS Neo:6. Dolby had that classic wide cinema soundstage with more bass, and the DTS was more neutral with a narrower soundstage. The Meridian seamlessly blends the center and side channels so you are truly surrounded in sound. It has the biggest wow factor. Trifield is now the only option on the newer Meridian systems. I do think the Meridian Signature in the new RR is better than the same system in the old one, despite being down on power compared to the previous model. 35 speakers are overkill, but I think it is the best system I've heard in a car along with the Burmester 3D system in the current Porsche Panamera and the Naim system in the new Bentley Flying Spur. ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง ๐ (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐.๐ (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone |
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22nd Nov 2024 2:35pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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Yes, the mids carry a lot of the mid range bass as well which can lack depth to the SQ.
2ohm is my go to as well, and paper cones on off road vehicles is not ideal. For obvious reasons. Whatโs the soundproofing like on the new Def? On the Puma it makes a good improvement, as a good bedrock to start setting up a good system. Iโd always start with sound proofing as, by default taking out the resonance and adding a bit more panel weight, especially on larger panels and panel skins increases SQ anyway by removing background rumble and noise, I know it reduces background noise by quite a few dB even just using a limited amount. No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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22nd Nov 2024 2:43pm |
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| Crazymind Member Since: 11 Jun 2024 Location: Glasgow Posts: 158
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Very interesting and detailed description, but I am firmly convinced it is below average. As it was on my XF and on my Ipace. Any "round the corner" shop can improve the basic system much more than the expensive OEM upgrade.
The output is no better than my Iphone 15pro. Which is not a compliment. My Taycan's Bose, which is not great, compared to the Meridian is miles better. To the point certain tunes i listen in the porsche, I can't listen to in the Defender! it sounds crap! One of all, the V8 sound of my Maserati recorded by myself with my ipone: I close my eyes in the porsche and it feels like I am in the Maserati. If i do the same in the Defender, I can only hear the metal clattering of the V8 engine, not the beefy and deep sound. No matter how much time i spend with the sound settings. To the point i Have got a playlist for the Defender and one for the Taycan. |
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22nd Nov 2024 2:52pm |
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| CincyRovers1 Member Since: 30 Nov 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 84
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Soundproofing made a huge difference. It is noticeably quieter, and the audio system sounds warmer and cleaner, especially when traveling at highway speeds. I still have some tire noise, as my Falken Wildpeaks aren't the quietest tire out there, but adding dynamat behind and inside of the door panels makes it sound an order of magnitude better. I also was able to fix an annoying rattle that I had that drove me nuts. Turns out it was caused by a piece of felt behind the speaker grille. I secures it down with some tape and it went away. ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar)
๐๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง ๐ (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐.๐ (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone |
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22nd Nov 2024 2:57pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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Oh yes, anything slightly loose and thatโll resonate like hell with just a bit of bass or even closing a door.
I like Dynamat, with closed sell adhesive 2mm foam over it in places, and premium cloth loom tape are my go to items. You can overdo it especially with super thick foams etc, even the speaker wires can resonate if they arenโt secure or quietened, if you canโt secure it professional cloth loom tape will add protection and prevent noise with just one wrap, but no problem with heat if itโs just one wrap around. Tesa cloth tape, not fleece like tape, but cloth loom tape, adhesive cotton basically but rated for the purpose, the fleece like tape attracts more heat, so Iโd avoid that but the cloth one is great.  No Guts, No Glory.
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22nd Nov 2024 3:03pm |
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| CincyRovers1 Member Since: 30 Nov 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 84
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Sound is obviously a subjective thing. But like I said, in objective testing, the Meridian tests extremely well. I will say another problem with the Defender is the placement of the midrange speakers. They are positioned pretty low on the door compared to other JLR products, and thus it has a lower soundstage. I think another reason the Meridian systems in the new RR & RRS sounds better is they moved the midrange speakers from the front doors to the corners of the dashboard. I replaced my Discovery with a Macan S with the Bose. I was dead set on getting the Burmester, but after listening to it, i was shocked how bad it was for the price. It literally sucked and the fact that it was a $5700 option was beyond me. I just decided to stick with the Bose, which is perfectly average, but the Burmester felt too powerful and not properly balanced. It was fatiguing to listen to, which is a shame, because the Burmester system in the Panamera is one of the best I've heard. I think the Bose in my Macan is perfectly fine for listening to music. I swapped the dashboard Bose tweeters for rear door Burmester tweeters, and it makes a big difference. I recommend doing that on your Taycan. The Burmester AMT dashboard tweeters can be retrofitted to the Bose system, but you need to change the connectors and make a special mounting plate. Rear door Burmester tweeters are plug & play, but you do need to cut off part of the connector to fit, as well as either swap over the capacitors or just buy new ones to solder on. There are plenty of threads on Rennlist on this subject. ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง ๐ (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐.๐ (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone |
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22nd Nov 2024 3:12pm |
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| CincyRovers1 Member Since: 30 Nov 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 84
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Tesa tape is what I used to secure everything down. That stuff is excellent. I used the proper name-brand Dynamat for my doors. I bought direct from them, as their HQ and factory is 25 minutes from my house. ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง๐๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐๐๐๐ (Pangea Green over Acorn/Lunar) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ง ๐ (Dolomite Silver over Black/Bordeaux Red) ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ (Aintree Green over Vintage Tan/Ebony) - Gone ๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐.๐ (Ipanema Sand over Almond/Arabica) - Gone |
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22nd Nov 2024 3:16pm |
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| ruben Member Since: 04 Feb 2021 Location: ASTURIAS Posts: 205 
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I am not that particular about sound, the Meridian seemed good to me, to be honest, but it is a pleasure to read such detailed and thorough expositions on this subject, keep going guys, I will be here silent trying to learn something useful, and thank you very much for your time dedicated to this effect!!
 Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
ExDiscovery 3 TDV6 SE |
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22nd Nov 2024 3:50pm |
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