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lightning



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Warning check this
LR came out to my two month old Defender D250 this morning to update the software.

The technician pointed out a hose that was rubbing, it's between the air intake and radiator at the top left of the radiator.

The vehicle has only 1500 miles and already the hose was showing signs of minor damage.

Apparently there was a service bulletin a couple of years ago but it's no longer in force.
Check yours, he said it could fail in under 4,000 miles.

There should be a 1cm gap between the hose and the air filter intake trunking.

As a temporary measure you can use a cable tie to pull the hose away a little.


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Post #980278 29th Jan 2023 10:55am
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Retroanaconda



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Very glad you mentioned it - just checked mine and found this:


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Will be having a stern conversation with the dealer on Monday. Have added some string to hold the hose clear of the filter for now.


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Post #980335 29th Jan 2023 3:29pm
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lightning



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Yep that's the one.

Cable tie will keep it from getting any worse until it can be properly sorted.
Post #980348 29th Jan 2023 4:21pm
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XplusYplusZ



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My D250 MY23.5 delivered in October 2022 seems to have a different plastic 90degree bend connector.

Slightly more angle (>90) on the plastic 90degree bend on the left of the images.

(It also looks like a vertical feeder pipe has been moved/changed from plastic 90bend too when comparing to the version in Retroanaconda's pics at 10 o'clock)


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Post #981454 6th Feb 2023 9:29am
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Intercooler



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On my Defender (Year of manufacture 6/2021 MY22) there is enough space between the radiator hose and the air intake. See photo.


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Post #981509 6th Feb 2023 4:09pm
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Post #981517 6th Feb 2023 4:40pm
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Retroanaconda wrote:
Very glad you mentioned it - just checked mine and found this:


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Will be having a stern conversation with the dealer on Monday. Have added some string to hold the hose clear of the filter for now.


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Just realised that I have this same issue. The hose is rubbing against the filter and it's showing signs of damage.
Did LR get this replaced and fixed?
If it's been removed from the service bulletin how critical is this? Last thing I want is to spend 1/2 a day drinking coffee at LR Service....

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Post #985467 14th Mar 2023 12:53am
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lightning



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Mine hasn't been done yet, there was a two month wait for a courtesy car and it was due to be done next week.
Then, l asked them to also look at the door outer plastic trim which has warped a little on the passenger door.
And also apparently my missing USB ports are now in stock.
Can they do that as well?
That will mean we need it for two days they said, and l've gone to the back of the queue so it's now being done at the end of April.
Post #985483 14th Mar 2023 8:09am
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Nazca sand eddie



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Does anyone know if a new TSB number has been issued?
Post #985547 14th Mar 2023 5:59pm
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Retroanaconda



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It’s being done on the 31st of this month. That’s the first date I could get a courtesy car. In the meantime I’ve added a bit of plastic to stop it rubbing through:


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Post #985553 14th Mar 2023 6:29pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Here’s what my 20 hours old D250 has under the bonnet to fix this

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I couldn’t find this thread earlier and posted more engine bay photos here, thanks to Martin for pointing me in the right direction to this again

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Post #986769 25th Mar 2023 2:08pm
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chrispuk



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Mine has started chafing the outside of the hose so have put a couple stainless hose clips round to protect it from the sharp plastic edge.
Post #986781 25th Mar 2023 2:45pm
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lightning



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The updated part is now available, it's a warranty issue but l ended up buying the part myself




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DSC-off



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So you buy a brand new Defender, from a UK dealer, then you have to buy parts from them to properly fix engineering defects, while it's still in warranty?

In which parallel universe is this a correct and proper course of action?
Post #999976 13th Jul 2023 7:13pm
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lightning



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Oh l am sure the dealership would have done it, but the vehicle has already been in once for the fault and they only replaced the hose.

When l got the vehicle back it had scratches on the rear panel that looked like they were done by an automatic car wash.

It's less hassle for me to just buy the part and fit it myself. l'll toss off an email to Land Rover to see if l can get some money back for the part, but l won't hold my breath.
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