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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1034   
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No GBP 300 is not worth it for an oil change (at 4000 miles). Do it yourself for GBP 50
What is suppose to be oil change interval? 15k? I do my oil changes on my own cars at max 10k km (6k miles) or once a year (mostly nowadays). For the more modern fleet I always buy synthetic, but since I moved back to Europe I am using the supermarket brand as the big brands are wayyy to expensive in my books. Same oil used to cost half in the US and Middle East and it ain't the taxes. I am of the opinion that frequent oil changes are more beneficial than expensive oil (within the same oil spec). |
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9th Oct 2023 5:14pm |
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| Defendit.. Member Since: 09 Aug 2020 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 421 
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Don't do it at all with these low mileage, wait till 10.000. No Mud flaps for my 90.!
----------------------------------------- P300 S MY21 on air, adv.+ offroad pack, DRL+fog, Dinamica Suedecloth + Ebony headliner/Cross Beam- Many Mods.. |
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9th Oct 2023 6:01pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8009  
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^^^ why is that then? i have always changed oil very early on with a new engine and that was pre dpf times. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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9th Oct 2023 6:07pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1592 
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im another fan of early and yearly oil changes . even more so on dpf equipped vehicles.
if your not keeping it long term std servicing is fine but if its a keeper then more maintenance wont hurt it. as its under warranty you would have to be careful about who does the work and what oil they use, yes a good indy will be fine but i think its a little early at 4k |
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9th Oct 2023 6:28pm |
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| Defendit.. Member Since: 09 Aug 2020 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 421
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@texasrover. oil change and filter for £ 50,- .... ?
I did an intermediate oil and filter change at 10k Mls. by myself on the old fashioned hard way , involved removing all protection under the car. Bought the same Castrol Edge Professional titanium oil and an oil filter, costs around £ 110,- Most important to check for any metal residu in the oil and filter after all the oil is out. The dealer only sucks the oil out as far as they can, doubt if they check anything. At my first service just before 24 months / 15k Mls. the dealer did the oil change and they managed to overfill 
During the warranty period, 36 months please use the original oil in case of engine failure. No Mud flaps for my 90.! ----------------------------------------- P300 S MY21 on air, adv.+ offroad pack, DRL+fog, Dinamica Suedecloth + Ebony headliner/Cross Beam- Many Mods.. |
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9th Oct 2023 7:13pm |
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| martinf Member Since: 30 Nov 2020 Location: Sussex Posts: 99
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I have a 110 P300 and recently had a service and the dealer overfilled the engine with oil.
I complained and they sent out the AA who removed 1.1 litres to get it to the correct level as per the dipstick. I was left wondering if the dealer failed to suck out all the oil before putting in the recommended amount. I noticed that the oil removed by the AA was quite black for the 12 miles the car had done coming back from the dealer. |
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9th Oct 2023 8:35pm |
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| hopalong Member Since: 15 Nov 2020 Location: ade Posts: 14 
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Change the air filter at least, we did a 10000 km trip in the Australian deserts recently on dusty tracks
 Click image to enlarge and blew dust out of the air filter several times and put a new air filter in 3 times.It is a bit awkward but doable by the side of a track in the bush. |
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9th Oct 2023 11:36pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1034
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Ok, just looked up the oil capacity wow which is a lot and you are correct if you buy the premium stuff at the premium (European rip off) pricing you be closer to 100. And there is the warranty, which is something I don't have to worry about. The sucking out of oil though is quite effective and convenient espesially if you had all that under body protection. on a Disco 4 I had I sucked out the oil and once to check I removed the plug after I sucked out the oil and very little came out (5.0 V  more like a dribble.
Anyway the dealer will also suck it out even for 300. |
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10th Oct 2023 12:40am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Japseroony - suggest that if you have been in dry dusty conditions or deep mud that you also carry out a “Jet Wash” mode radiator clean. It will lock the flaps that enable quick warm up in cold weather and close up as part of the wading mode in the open position for radiator cleaning.
It’s not in the owners manual but it is in the workshop manual and PowerfulUK have a video from about 2 years ago showing how to do but I did a screen grab from the video….. if you look in the grille you can see if the radiator is visible or if the vanes are closed blocking the radiator. Apparrantly this mode was added because the LRE’s were having cleaning problems on their cars - I know this also works for L494 RRS and L405 FFRR so expect it works on D5 and the two new RR’s Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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11th Oct 2023 11:51am |
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| Lightwater Member Since: 28 Jun 2020 Location: Sydney NB Posts: 71
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Agree, the dust gets into everything.
This is the air filter from my Freelander.
Not worth trying to save a few dollars & kill the car. Visitor - Freelander owner |
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12th Oct 2023 5:43am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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I usually do an early-life oil and filter change on all my vehicles, but I do it myself. Just done my Honda motorcycle, and even my lawnmower
I did my Defender 13 years ago, and I still have that car, and still cherish it! I even wrote it up here! https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8707.html Glad I did - I found the levels and oils just did not seem right. 13 years on, and she runs like a beauty...cash and time well spent IMO Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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12th Oct 2023 6:44am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2734
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My advice.
Change the oil and filter at 5,000 miles then again at 10,000 After that, change it every 10,000 miles, or annually. It costs around £120 if you do it yourself. It certainly can't do any harm. Buy a suction device to get the oil out, around £60 on Ebay. |
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12th Oct 2023 7:30am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3671 
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Agreed. The most critical component in any engine/gearbox is the lubrication.
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12th Oct 2023 1:11pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1217  
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I wouldn’t worry.
Defender is loaded with service interval indicators installed .Land Rover’s Flexible Service calculates when a service is due based on driving styles and conditions. Spend your money when it’s needed It’s a modern vehicle..not like the good old Defender Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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12th Oct 2023 6:31pm |
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