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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
200tdi to M57
Well i thought it was time to try this conversion and see whats involved.

There are a lot of grey areas when you start looking for info on doing the work, its not even easy to find info on the variants of m57 out there let along all the codes that go with them.

anyway nothing ventured!

200tdi with disco lump and R380 currently fitted.

M57 184bhp version going in on LT82 puma box and 1.2 t box.

most seem to go for an auto and if this works out ok i may take that plunge on the 130 but on our training vehicle a manual seemed a good way to go. went with the LR box over the BMW one as well why not, its stock then back from clutch.

gathered some parts together and found an engine and started learning! its a slow progress as time on the project it limited.


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think i have the wiring sussed will know for sure soon.


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gearing may be a bit out, time will tell. 4.11s and 33s.

House of Torque loom and ECU from Max Wiseman. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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Shroppy



Member Since: 25 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 866
United Kingdom 1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green
Nice project! Did you change the engine mounts on the chassis or fabricated brackets to suit? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"
Post #987421 31st Mar 2023 7:43am
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Welded in engine and gearbox mounts. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Looking forward to this James...
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
its taking a while it seems! got some wiring sorted today, waiting on a fe coolant parts, hopefully fuel sorted tomorrow Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Coming along. Decided to put loom inside.


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James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
She's in and running. Very pleased with results. Loads of torque and incredibly smooth. Def worth the effort. ( despite slight engine issue with over fuelling, burning oil, leaking injector or similar on cold Start up)


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James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #988068 5th Apr 2023 8:10pm
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lb73



Member Since: 27 May 2016
Location: North Wales
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Good to see another m57 conversion, what’s your plan for the air intake (looking for ideas on how to connect mine up) 1999 300TDI 110 CSW BMW 3.0
1972 VW Beetle 1200
2002 Dax Rush 3.9 V8
2012 Audi A3 tdi
2020 Renault Kangoo electric
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Remove std filter, adaptor from maf housing to 3" pipe, filter in that pipework. Jist needs to be big with good air flow. Can run as she is for a while. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #988078 5th Apr 2023 9:15pm
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shanecl



Member Since: 20 Mar 2013
Location: Louth
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Ireland 1989 Defender 90 V8 Petrol CSW Auto Firenze Red
@ib73 you could have 2 options, fit the 535D rocker cover as this used a remote say airbox or MW Machines is after creating a side panel for the air box so you can fit to a snorkel.
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
think the adaptor i bought was £30, plus some 3" pipe and a filter housing if not filter on end of pipework. depends how much you want to spend. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #988152 6th Apr 2023 4:34pm
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Jon w



Member Since: 22 Dec 2015
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Wales 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Epsom Green
Interesting this James. Couple of questions:

What variant of engine was it? Range rover?

How come you swapped the R380 out?

Does the puma box sit in the standard puma position for transfer box mounting etc? THen was it just a case of welding in the engine mounts?

Thanks
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Procta



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Great to see it went nice and smooth for you, the engine conversion we did in a rover metro, the info was very questionable.

How much did it set you back? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Its alot of £££ 5o d9. Engine was £325, downpipe £400, clutch, adaptor £1k. Puma gearbox, t box and props £1k. Ecu bits loom, service items, prob £1k engine mts £500 plus pipework and pas parts. So alot.

R380 apparantly wont take the grunt for long. fitted puma gbox and tbox in std place with puma props worked fwd from there. Its a 185 version Jon. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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CarMan



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Plus a big labour bill for those of us without your skills Bow down Rob

1993 200tdi 90 hard-top
1998 300tdi 90 soft-top
2016 2.2 XS 90 hard-top (sold)
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