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BlaineBourke



Member Since: 13 Sep 2022
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Ireland 2004 Defender 110 2.5 TD SW Barolo Black
Installing second row Seats 2004 110
Hi All

I want to put second row seats into my 2004 110 defender.
it has never had second row seats so I don't know what I need to get or where to get it. Do I need a conversion kit etc. any help would be great, thanks.
Post #964915 13th Sep 2022 6:55pm
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
What have you got?
Pics would be good.
Post #964923 13th Sep 2022 7:57pm
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BlaineBourke



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Ireland 2004 Defender 110 2.5 TD SW Barolo Black

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Not sure if this is any use, as I said no seats were ever fitted
Post #964936 13th Sep 2022 9:48pm
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donmacn



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Have you had the car from new?

I’d be extremely surprised if this car really “never” had 2nd row seats. If you were to examine the carpets on the 2nd row heel panel I think you’d find the the bolt heads where the brackets would fit, on which the seats mount. In fact, if my memory is correct, and a 2005 car is still the same as a 1994 one, then the seats are fitted through body/chassis mounts - and they will be there.

I’m nearly certain I don’t have pics to hand of that sort of area, but a parts diagram on the likes of ‘new LR cat’ or ‘LR Workshop’ would show you what’s needed.

You’d need:
Seatbelts and fittings - the middle one’s a lap belt, two sides are inertia reel, and fit to plates on the sides of the car, forward of the rear window;
The front brackets which go onto the heel panel;
The ‘stepped’ plate which fits onto the front of the rear wheel arch;
The spring catch, which fits onto this panel, and holds the outer seats down;
The seats themselves!

If no-one else jumps in I can try and send pics later. As I say, my post here does depend on 2005 cars being the same as 1994 - but judging by the fact that your rear wheel arch isn’t stepped, I think I’m right.

If you’re the 2nd owner - or later, I don’t suppose you can speak to previous owners and see who might still have all the stuff in a shed? Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
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rallysteve



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Keswick Green
Not the best photo but you should be able to see all of the bits described above.


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Cheers, Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
Post #964959 14th Sep 2022 7:44am
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landy andy



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I’ve also got all the seatbelt stuff removed and in the garage if you need pics.
Post #965108 15th Sep 2022 11:05am
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Cragster69



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I had a look at this when I was sourcing my 110. I wanted the middle row seats to have seat belts and not lap belts.

A number of the 300Tdi and Td5 vehicles had the Puma style middle seats fitted so it can be done.
I also viewed some had that 3 lap belts and some had the 2 outer seats with seat belts and the middle with a lap belt.

This video gives and idea of what is involved.


YRM sell this kit for pre 2007 Puma middle row seat conversion
https://yrmit.co.uk/product/2nd-row-seat-c...or-5-door/

Then there is the seats themselves
https://www.lucari-solutions.co.uk/middle-...i-110.html Craig.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln

www.scotgrc.co.uk
Post #965134 15th Sep 2022 2:08pm
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BlaineBourke



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Thanks for the replies lads, much appreciated.

@donmacn its a 110 station wagon and i just bought it 3 weeks ago, also my 1st defender so its all new to me. i work crazy hours during the week so i haven't been able to check for holes or brackets under the carpet and soundproofing but thanks for the info and help

@Landy Andy and @Rallysteve, thanks for the pics, they will really help me, at least I have an idea of what to look for.

@Cragster69, I saw that video during the week, only thing is i need it to be road legal in Ireland so I need an engineers cert. Thanks for sending it on.

I have sourced two bespoke puma seats for the rear with brackets etc. and have found a place that can install them for me and provide certs for everything, although I would love to do this work myself Sad


thanks again for the help lads and feel free to send more advice
Post #965169 15th Sep 2022 7:44pm
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Cragster69



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@BlaineBourke glad you got it sorted, I also wanted it done professionally.

Keep us updated on the progress and show us some pictures. Craig.

“Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln

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