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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3412 |
4 cylinder is a decent motor but the 6 cylinder would be my choice now that I’ve owned one, well 2 now.
D200 6 cylinder is good, plenty enough torque and it’s no slouch either. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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11th Sep 2022 9:09am |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 |
My D240 2020 110 First Edition has been 100% reliable mechanically (it’s the other bits that have needed 10 visits to the workshop to fix - leaks and rattles, nothing has fallen off apart from the rubber stop on the fuel filler cover!). Mine is a Feb 2020 early build car that obviously the QC guys needed more training back then. It has plenty of power and torque and is smooth and quiet. I test drove a 4 cylinder D200 and it almost made me ask for my deposit back - it felt underpowered in a 110. The D250 6 cylinder only has 10bhp more BUT a big hike in torque over the D240 - 570Nm compared to 430Nm for the 4 cylinder. 2 weeks ago I was accused of having an electric Defender on an off-road trails day, the D240 was running so quietly compared to all the noisey Pumas and TD5’s needing to rev them hard to get up the same slippery slope the D240 just crawled up at just over idle revs.
I’m looking forward to the delivery of a D250 90 HSE in December, I haven’t even test driven a D250, but have driven a 3ltr D200 which has enough get up and go for most people but is not available at the moment here. One thing I have found with the D240 is that in 1st and 2nd gears it will hold the revs to 3000/3500 rpm before it shifts up in D, not sure why and when it does hold the revs I manually shift it up to 3rd. I don’t know if the 6 cylinder motors do the same. I have also treated mine to an early oil and filter change at half the recommended interval of 21000 miles / 24 months. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 12th Sep 2022 8:05am. Edited 2 times in total |
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11th Sep 2022 9:26am |
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haymeister Member Since: 24 May 2021 Location: Saitama Posts: 266 |
Holding to 3000+rpm seems high.
Under light acceleration my D300 shifts up around 1,750 in the first few gears. Only when I am in a real hurry will it shift above 2,500 rpm. 22MY Defender 110 D300 S in Pangea Green and Contrast White Roof IG defender_japan "Hulk san" |
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11th Sep 2022 12:34pm |
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mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 |
I agree with the above
The d240 is fine. I had a 6c d200 for a few days and it was noticeably poor, d250 I was surprised wasn't wildly noticeably better and for some reason the d300 doesn't shift like the d5 with the same engine we have although does 'shift' a bit more I felt cheated it's not as good as our disco (not seems to get the mpg) When you think of the td5 and puma the d240 isn't that disimmilar engine wise and is a tried engine for the ds and rrs etc, so I would just do it if the car is right, you'll not really see the engine day to day and it will still move etc The d240 revs a little high due to some of the power bands, did the same in one of the others we had Mike |
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12th Sep 2022 6:10am |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3412 |
D200 6 cylinder poor it was perfect on my 90 pulled well. If it was still available it would be the one I’d have, the D250 I have at the moment isn’t worth the extra money over it. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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12th Sep 2022 3:13pm |
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mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 |
I had it in a 90
But comparing to a d300 and d240 I would say it was But the I don’t think the defender has the get up and go the disco has Mike |
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19th Sep 2022 10:52pm |
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pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 662 |
Deffo the 6 cylinder for me. Drove the 4 cylinder and found it dissappointing.
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20th Sep 2022 8:59am |
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kjmeijer Member Since: 09 Apr 2012 Location: Netherlands Posts: 84 |
Well, next week my 6-cylinder will arrive:
Click image to enlarge 2021 Defender 110 D300 HSE |
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27th Oct 2022 6:48pm |
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Oswiperus Member Since: 12 Aug 2020 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 48 |
Looking great!
You'll love driving that 6 cylinder! 110 D300 SE Tasman blue |
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27th Oct 2022 8:01pm |
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haymeister Member Since: 24 May 2021 Location: Saitama Posts: 266 |
Fine colour too might I add! 22MY Defender 110 D300 S in Pangea Green and Contrast White Roof
IG defender_japan "Hulk san" |
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27th Oct 2022 10:54pm |
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Logannz Member Since: 28 May 2020 Location: Queenstown Posts: 26 |
The 4 cylinder has issues especially if you tow a lot, basically the turbo works too hard and then fails sometimes taking the engine along with it.. I have it on good authority that a lot have been swapped under warranty.
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2nd Aug 2023 2:51am |
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lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2867 |
The 3.0 D250 engine is the highlight of my Defender for me. The engine is really smooth in operation, and has fabulous pulling power particularly when towing our caravan.
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2nd Aug 2023 7:11am |
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pacatx Member Since: 12 Mar 2023 Location: Seattle Posts: 9 |
Wow those wheels look so perfect |
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2nd Aug 2023 7:51am |
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mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 |
Im not sure i have heard that tbh, its a very popular engine in the line up and maybe the defender uses them harder, but theres a lot of disco sports and evokes i see towing But turbo failure in land rovers is hardly uncommon, look at all TDV6/SDV6/TDV8s that have had them, wouldnt surprise me if the 6pot D will have them in a few years, just to keep the theme. At least its not a body off job like the d3/4/sports Mike |
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2nd Aug 2023 7:51am |
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