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bear100



Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
Location: South Wales
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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Steering Dampers......?
Let's talk steering damper!

My Terrafirma damper has decided to give up after only 2 years Shocked i had the return to center version, the original lasted 8 years.
by choosing an aftermarket so called HD or what ever names they give i tend to get sucked in and believe they are better, but are they?

The vast majority of my defenders life is spent on the road but it will venture off road from time to time. I have 30mm spacers and 285 BFG AT's on standard Boost alloys which is why i believe i would need something a bit more than standard.....I'm probably wrong here?

Gas filled shocks are constantly pushing and guide you to one side?
oil filled are the way to go?.....i may be wrong here too?

A lot of posts mention the Billstein as a good alternative and Old Man Emu, I've also heard that Fox are in the process of bringing out their version? i have Fox all round and find them fantastic.

What are your thoughts and preferred choice? 2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone)
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)


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Post #954119 31st May 2022 6:25am
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hank



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Location: South Wales
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Genuine/OEM standard

 > 110 XS Double Cab
Post #954120 31st May 2022 6:42am
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
I can only tell you what I had done to my 2011my 110 USW around 100k miles ago.

Since then it's done at least 40k miles on continental auto routes/autobahns at around 80mph - so rock steady steering is a good thing.

I explained what I wanted my Land Rover to do to Gwyn Lewis who fitted Sumo Bars and an OME steering damper, OME shocks and et10 offset wheels on 235/85/16 BFG tyres with the steering lock stops set so that the tyres miss the radius arms by 10mm at their closest during articulation.

This set up works well off road as well, the better turning circle and more positive steering feel helps a lot.

My advice (for what it's worth) - set your Land Rover up for what you want it to do, you may need to fit more than a steering damper to achieve your goal Thumbs Up Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
Post #954165 31st May 2022 12:20pm
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bear100



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Hank good clip that one and confirmed my thoughts too.

Shropshire I was thinking of having the GL sumo bars and up rated track rods 2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone)
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #954233 31st May 2022 8:15pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Good plan, what I was trying to say is that there are a combination of factors that together make an improvement.

Gwyn Lewis is a helpful, if rather "straight talking" chap, a phone call to him would be a good move. If you tell him what you want to achieve, rather than what you want, he will give you straight answers based on his very wide experience. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
Post #954306 1st Jun 2022 12:40pm
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custom90



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Gwyn’s parts are good, I’m really pleased with the greasable A frame ball joint I bought and the service I had last year.

Happy to answer by email as well.

Regards, steering damper and other dampers for that matter i’d stick with Genuine / OEM.

The others aren’t great, they can be prone to breaking, corrosion issues. Or general failure.
The Genuine ones have a good life expectancy so long as the bushes are replaced before they get too bad. KEEP CALM AND Drill ON
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Post #954318 1st Jun 2022 1:17pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
just replaced a standard steering damper for an OME one, I already had the Gwyn Lewis sumo bars and disco steering arm.

my car is a road car with no steering issues

I can confirm the Gwyn Lewis kit certainly tightened up the steering and removed the shake after hitting pot holes, I ran this with the standard damper for several years.

The OME steering damper feels about 50% stiffer than the original (when compressed and extended off the car) and this can be detected by slightly slower RTC and further improved pot hole behaviour.

I can recommend both mods

ps looks good from the front too (IMO) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #954344 1st Jun 2022 7:12pm
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bear100



Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
thanks for the info chaps Thumbs Up 2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone)
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #954555 4th Jun 2022 5:21pm
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100inch



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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Worth remembering that your spacers adding a lot of scrub radius. I would go for something like the OME as you don't want to over dampen your steering. Also avoid RTC IMO. M
Post #954572 5th Jun 2022 3:35am
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I use an original steering damper. It might even be from 2003 but for sure from before 2009.
It still works fine even with my 35"Simexes on the road.

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1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
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Post #954655 5th Jun 2022 9:09pm
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geobloke



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Second vote for the Old Man Emu steering damper. Miffy has had one on for nearly a decade now, still working superbly. The only thing I have had to do is replace the bushes and I gave the metal body a paint earlier this year.

I also have a set of GL's Sumo bars on (now older than I care to remember) and have recently replaced the ball joints. The Sumo's are worth it by the way if only because you can slot a good sized spanner on to them to get old ball joints off, if you forgot to protect the threads Wink It is worth doing the ball joint grease nipple modification at the same time. Now have lovely steering.

FYI Miffy has 30mm spacers and 285/75/16 BFGs on Boosts.
Post #954690 6th Jun 2022 10:50am
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
I’ve got a bilstein damper and it works fine, but I have to lubricate the seals every 6 months or so to stop it squeaking. It’s not the end of the world like, but I wouldn’t get another one.
Post #954723 6th Jun 2022 5:24pm
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