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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2081   
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Mmmmm I have re-read the above and am now wondering if you are asking for recommendations about storing your wife outside - which makes sense given her suggestion. 🤪
There are quite a number of car covers out there these days (for your Defender). I’m not convinced that all are equal. My only experience of a so-called ‘breathable’ car cover on my classic car was that it wasn’t … and made the car ‘sweat.’ Mind you, that was quite a few years ago. If your budget allows there are car tents which have environmental controls. Can you not erect a car port of some description? |
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2nd Jul 2023 6:38am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3639 
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dont do it
keep the garage the kids will move on but if you look after the Def it will stay longer than them DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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2nd Jul 2023 6:59am |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037 
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Will be watching this thread with interest. I’m yet to start the process of building a new garage, so mine will be living outside over this winter. As I am planning to use it, this isn’t a massive hardship but corrosion protection is at the top of my list of things to keep on top off.
To be honest, it does seem crazy to be talking about an eight year old car as a classic but I appreciate the OP’s sentiment entirely; hence, being interested in what other people do to hold back the little niggles all Defenders experience from inclement weather. |
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2nd Jul 2023 8:22am |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3409  
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It is also been studied that parent participation in kids play is also very important, so you should suggest to turn the living room in a kids playing room. Its not fair to ask your wife to stay in the garage
As LR90 said... kids will grow up fast, and pretty sure they will get bored too soon in a small garage. Waste of money and space, keep it as a garage. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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2nd Jul 2023 9:24am |
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| MarkBrown Member Since: 03 Oct 2022 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 449  
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If it was me, I'd build a playroom in the garden, but make sure that it's big enough for adults to use. Then you can keep the garage for it's ideal purpose of looking after your defender and keeping it safe from prying eyes. It would also be something for the kids to ' help' with, setting it up, painting, rugs etc.
The kids may end up sulking in the bedroom anyway, with you sulking about the amount of rain which will probably get into your defender if left outside. How you go about explaining to your wife that a bunch of folks on a forum have suggested that the defender comes first is your problem!  |
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2nd Jul 2023 10:40am |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2394
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just say no my car was there first
  2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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2nd Jul 2023 11:14am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1034  
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In my experience, which with 3 kids of spread outer age is a fair bit, a kids play room turns into a kids play thing storage room with weeks. Kids don't play in a room away from their parents. They play where there parents are. Thus if you have kids, your living room will be a bit messy, just get used to it and enjoy your kids at every age ( till they become teenager and then everything gets a bit more difficult).
Also if you enjoy using your garage ( for your defender) then it it has valid use and the family should respect that. I tell my kids my tools are my toys and I am going to play in the garage, typically they come along and I don't get much done as we are all playing together with my toys |
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2nd Jul 2023 1:03pm |
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| RaenerPuma2007110 Member Since: 13 Jun 2023 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 39 
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My recently purchased 2007 Puma is just beginning to show a light rusting on the chassis, which obviously I don’t want to worsen in the sea air.
Planning on treating the underneath before the end of the Summer following instructions elsewhere on this site. But should we do more than this? I don’t have the option to build a garage but could build a car port- which would keep rain off but not moisture. However maybe that’s better than a garage- which isn’t moisture preventative either and a car port is the ultimate in airflow for drying. Also have the option of fold over awning but still has moisture issues. Or a bubble with built in humidifier- but loads of stories about them loosing their seals and never going to hold up in the wind anyway. So really I’m just rambling around in circles here. Final point- I’m no expert - but if it’s the combo of rain and oxygen that causes rusting and it’s the chassis that rusts and not the Aluminum body- if I don’t drive it in the wet, the underside should never actually get much water on it. Yes there’s the moisture to contend with, but the underside will be treated and you still get moisture in a garage unless it’s a really fancy one. Soooo is a garage really a major advantage??? |
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2nd Jul 2023 1:05pm |
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| tommac Member Since: 03 Jul 2018 Location: devon Posts: 26 
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Just my 2 pennies worth; I’d ensure that the chassis is well protected and the paintwork waxed. Then go down the route of a car port/garage ; either a pop up type ( machine mart stock some good options) o more permanent timber built. Personal punt use a cover outdoors, as it will scratch if a small amount of dirt is present. A pop up is in my opinion better so as to allow air to circulate
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2nd Jul 2023 4:04pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298  
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a shipping container.....clad if needs be;
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=de...ajaxserp=0 |
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2nd Jul 2023 6:43pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17338 
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Unless you specifically take steps to prevent it, a shipping container will be streaming with condensation at certain times of the year. It's an outstanding environment for corrosion.
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2nd Jul 2023 7:24pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298
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not sure if the new ones are better?
I've had one for a couple of year now and not noticed any - it is a new one with numerous vent points? |
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2nd Jul 2023 8:13pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 864 
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"store her outside... she’s treated like a classic car"
An oxymoron, I'm afraid. Due to health reasons with which I won't bore you, I've been unable to take my 2007 Morgan and 2011 Defender back to the UK and they've had to be kept ungaraged for two years in full Côte d'Azur sunshine. I tried to protect the Mog with covers etc., the result being deterioration of the hood and interior leather, rubber seals coming adrift, some plastic parts literally crumbling into powder. The (Santorini Black) paint on the Defender's roof has fallen off in patches, it looks like somebody had thrown paint thinners over it. Perhaps no comparison with UK weather, but snow, ice, hail etc. will be equally damaging... but it is only a truck, after all! Peter |
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2nd Jul 2023 8:32pm |
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| dainger Member Since: 08 Feb 2022 Location: Harpenden Posts: 67 
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
I agree RE kids being around us, it's more for my older son and his friends so we can watch TV when we want in the lounge vs watchin them play the playstation lol. @Birdy - Your description makes me realize doing nothing is not an options. thank you. @Caterham / @Blackwolf - Shipping container with ventilation is a nice idea and cost effective however aesthetically won't get signed off by the boss given it's planned location. @RaenerPuma2007110 - For me it's the body and like @Birdy says the water just get under the seals or the sun perishes the rubber. Don't get me wrong, all totally normal on a landy but anything I can do to elongate her life and my maintenance bill I shall do. @Welshsurfeedude - HA! you don't know my wife.... she scares me lol. @Tommac - Yep I think you are right, as shes well protected, ceramic coated and undersealed by the legend that is Chris C aka (@Zagato). So I reckon a car port will be good as allow for ventilation also. Not perfect but happy medium. I've found "Bolton Buildings - Car Port" which seem quite good just from online views. I'll do more research into them. The next hurdle I have is justifying the costs associated into converting the garage AND ALSO putting up a car port. Hummmm this is a worrying position to be in. |
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3rd Jul 2023 11:49am |
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