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VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1512

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Bought one of these: Sparewheel carrier with Hi Lift mounting support Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

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11th Sep 2011 3:13pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

VeeTee wrote:

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Bought one of these: Sparewheel carrier with Hi Lift mounting support

thats the daddy. but i done have the wheel carrier.

Pom

11th Sep 2011 3:26pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

BigMike wrote:
..... its probably the most dangerous piece of equipment that realistically is pretty much never going to get used in this country unless in competition. i hate them and cannot understand why so many people want to bolt them to their vehicles.

It's bad operation of a hi lift that is dangerous - the jacks themselves are perfectly safe.

John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

11th Sep 2011 5:24pm

VeeTee

Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1512

pom wrote:

veetee wrote:
Bought one of these: Sparewheel carrier with Hi Lift mounting support

thats the daddy. but i done have the wheel carrier.

Pom

I also had another sparewheel carrier but sold it to be repaced by this one... Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

MySite

11th Sep 2011 5:25pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

entreq do a nice looking one ... probably have to save pocket money for one of these

http://www.entreq.de/products/recovery/hec...-lift.html

11th Sep 2011 5:33pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

thanks Bpman just what I was looking for, your a star!

Pom

11th Sep 2011 5:49pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

JSG wrote:
BigMike wrote:
..... its probably the most dangerous piece of equipment that realistically is pretty much never going to get used in this country unless in competition. i hate them and cannot understand why so many people want to bolt them to their vehicles.

It's bad operation of a hi lift that is dangerous - the jacks themselves are perfectly safe.

I 100% agree with this!

And it is valid for winches and Land Rovers too.

Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

11th Sep 2011 6:44pm

drewster

Member Since: 13 Jun 2011
Location: south coast brockenhurst
Posts: 226

1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

MK wrote:

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This is a 48" jack and the tip of the top is just at the roof`s level

I completely aggre on a spare wheel carrier is the best option as you wil allmost enevertably use it in the mud

16th Sep 2011 10:24am

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

JSG wrote:
BigMike wrote:
..... its probably the most dangerous piece of equipment that realistically is pretty much never going to get used in this country unless in competition. i hate them and cannot understand why so many people want to bolt them to their vehicles.

It's bad operation of a hi lift that is dangerous - the jacks themselves are perfectly safe.

Of course. Trouble is that when you actually might need one, its likely that youre tired, cold, wet, not concentrating, hence the high number of injuries caused by them. I really dont get why so many people want to bolt a hi lift to their vehicles. even in deep sand I've never needed one, nor has anyone I've ever been out with in those conditions, even getting stuck in deep ruts. Strikes me that its a badge: "look at me I go offroad".

And my other bugbear (on a roll now) is people using them to change wheels and do everyday maintenance. Madness.

16th Sep 2011 12:36pm

drewster

Member Since: 13 Jun 2011
Location: south coast brockenhurst
Posts: 226

BigMike wrote:
JSG wrote:
BigMike wrote:
..... its probably the most dangerous piece of equipment that realistically is pretty much never going to get used in this country unless in competition. i hate them and cannot understand why so many people want to bolt them to their vehicles.

It's bad operation of a hi lift that is dangerous - the jacks themselves are perfectly safe.

Of course. Trouble is that when you actually might need one, its likely that youre tired, cold, wet, not concentrating, hence the high number of injuries caused by them. I really dont get why so many people want to bolt a hi lift to their vehicles. even in deep sand I've never needed one, nor has anyone I've ever been out with in those conditions, even getting stuck in deep ruts. Strikes me that its a badge: "look at me I go offroad".

And my other bugbear (on a roll now) is people using them to change wheels and do everyday maintenance. Madness.

i think your analagy is out of place when i have used my hi lift it has only been used to lift the car up so i could get the waffle boards under the front wheels ( in very deep ruts ) but you must be a better driver than me
but like you i agree to use one for general maternance is more than mad

16th Sep 2011 1:57pm

SteveT247

Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 491

2002 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

I've owned my Hi-lift probably well over 10 years now and in that time I've used it twice, once to lift & slew a friends 88" that was stuck in ruts (towing it forwards was taking it in to a fence and it wouldn't drive out backwards), and the second time was as a short pull winch to pull my Defender backwards out of a large hole it was cross axled in. Its not how often you use it, its how handy it is when you need it. In both instances it was invaluable and I wouldn't go laning without it.

16th Sep 2011 3:11pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17602

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

JSG wrote:
The TR110 had mounting brackets fitted to the front of the second row seat box so it mounted under the seat width ways.

Exactly what I have done in my DC. Due to the overhang of the seats it doesn't affect the rear passenger fooot-space at all, it is secure and safe and out of the weather.

16th Sep 2011 5:08pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

JSG wrote:
BigMike wrote:
..... its probably the most dangerous piece of equipment that realistically is pretty much never going to get used in this country unless in competition. i hate them and cannot understand why so many people want to bolt them to their vehicles.

It's bad operation of a hi lift that is dangerous - the jacks themselves are perfectly safe.

Whilst the jacks might be safe they are inherently unstable! That is why they can be used for slewing vehicles out of ruts. Most people do not realise that a high lift jack raises the chassis first until suspension limit is reached before starting to lift wheels/axles. How many people strap/restrict suspension before lifting chassis? Much safer that way.

Why do people insist on carrying them unprotected on the outside of their vehicles exposed to road dirt and the elements?

For the first time in years I carried our high lift jack inside our 110 in a padded bag strapped to base of cargo barrier

How NOT to use a high lift jack

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Handle in down position NOT secured in up position.

NO axle stand

No other means of support such as wheel under axle!

Head inside wheel arch whilst braying seven bells of ....... with lump hammer on brakes.

REFUSED use of folding axle stand.

UNSAFE? Extremely so

Brendan

PS If the high lift jack is the most over rated bit of kit the most under rated bit of kit is a decent recovery shovel

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17th Sep 2011 5:22pm

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