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| SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 660  
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When is a Range Rover not a Range Rover? - When it’s a Defender of course 🙄
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...y-flagship  |
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13th Sep 2021 11:43am |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510 
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Not sure it’s any surprise (and remember that the first Defender owed an awful lot to the classic Range Rover).
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13th Sep 2021 12:09pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2643  
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Wont be long before JLR start employing bouncers on the door to keep us out with the words ' we don't want your sort here, your not invited'.
Jeez, you should see the looks i get at the local service centre when i am dropping the wife off to collect her Velar........ Oh well, it will keep the credit companies happy. |
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13th Sep 2021 7:05pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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JLR needs to concentrate on getting the build of the current cars 100% faultless before they start taking Defender any further upmarket. It’s already verging on too expensive for the dire QC - maybe they need to bring the production line back to Solihull where the management can keep an eye directly on build quality because I think they’ve all gone on holiday at Nitra.
It’s ludicrous that I now have the car in the workshop to cure a drivers door rattle that has been “fixed” to use the workshops technical term, 3 times previously but keeps returning Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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13th Sep 2021 8:41pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2164 
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Both BMW and Merc / AMG hav some shocking QC issues.......and for that matter Tesla also
Seems to go with the territory these days, maybe no-one complains about their 'new clothes'.........  |
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13th Sep 2021 8:43pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3404 
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The current new Defender is based on a modified Range Rover D7u platform.
Just a slack day in the Autocar office 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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13th Sep 2021 9:05pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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My experience is that the vehicles coming out of Tesla's China factory are a leap forward on previous offerings from the US. Whether that's the China effect or just general company wide learnings I'm less sure on.
MLA platform was going to be common right across all models and then revised under the Reimagine plan  Click image to enlarge Might as well say Land Rover will replace the Range Rover with a new Jaguar XJ based model... |
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15th Sep 2021 5:55am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Surely all this talk of platforms is missing the point? LR and virtually every other manufacturer have always shared parts across their ranges. Shouldn't any angst really be about the fact that LR are developing a Defender to sit squarely in what has always been exclusively Range Rover territory in terms of spec. and pricing? Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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15th Sep 2021 7:41am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Yes it does miss your point but does address the nonsense of saying a new Defender will be Range Rover based.
Defender is indeed moving into Range Rover territory in terms of spec and pricing but Range Rover is vacating that space and moving upwards itself; so there's logic there but also angst at what Defender has and will increasingly become and the pricing points this then generates. |
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15th Sep 2021 7:55am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I'm not sure that it's exclusively my point but ok. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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15th Sep 2021 8:00am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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That EMA BEV platform could be interesting with the compact ICE. Wonder if it’s a range extender setup? We had a BMW i3 REX when they came out it was a brilliant setup. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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15th Sep 2021 9:01pm |
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