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GREENI



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DeMuro bought one.
Top blokey, though a tad intense Laughing

Post #866580 10th Nov 2020 8:58pm
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W84IT



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I happen to agree with Doug Demuro on this one. My new L663 Defender is the best daily driver that I've ever owned and I can see myself keeping it for at least 4-6 years. My L322 Range Rover was also a great daily driver that I kept for almost 6 years and I currently have an L405 Range Rover as well that I plan on keeping for 4-6 years. Ray
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Post #866628 11th Nov 2020 12:29am
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shawnpalmer



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I agree with him too. It's the best Land Rover that Land rover has had out since the LR4 went away. I love mine.
Post #866632 11th Nov 2020 5:08am
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Doug DeMuro‘s reviews are always on point (even if his energy can be exhausting to listen to) and he nailed it again here. After recently driving the 2020, I can relate to his viewpoint. Amoungst all the over styled SUV‘s the new Defender does stand out. Thumbs Up 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
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Post #866639 11th Nov 2020 6:32am
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Tom_T



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I’ve watched a lot of his reviews over the years and I respect him for being unbiased and not swayed by any of the manufacturers. I plan on keeping mine long term as well as I genuinely believe that it ticks all the boxes in terms of practicality, off road ability, and on road driving dynamics and does it better as an overall package than its competitors
Post #866641 11th Nov 2020 7:20am
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DSL



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Have to agree with him, bit of a rubbish load cover!
Post #866647 11th Nov 2020 7:45am
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Tim in Scotland



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You might think so but I get the idea that if you have a rigid one then you have the problem of what to do with it if you are at IKEA or B&Q and decide to bring home some large packages. This one neatly gets around that problem as you simply roll it or fold it and put it in the slot in the tailgate or under the boot floor. It’s not as neat a solution as D3’s had for storing the roller cassette but that didn’t get designed into RRS or FFRR for some reason. There’s also now no problem of failing roller blind mechanisms or rattles from that sort of cover or a rigid one. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Post #866656 11th Nov 2020 8:56am
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DSL



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I was thinking of the D3/4 one as a direct comparison, esp the way it slots in between the 2nd & 3rd row seats. S’pose it’s a first world problem. Agreed re the rigid covers, the one for my Karoq is presently propping up a wall in the kitchen. Thumbs Up
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Tim in Scotland



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My Evoques and the Mini Countryman had quite an elegant solution in that the rigid cover stowed down the back of the rear seat back, between the retaining bars that kept the seats in the upright position and folded flat with the seat backs if you needed the entire load space but then in both cars if the item was heavy you risked damage to the rigid cover unless you could slide it in beside the load. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #866659 11th Nov 2020 9:09am
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J77



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I never use the load cover so at least the Defender one is easier to throw in the cupboard. The 90 even more so.
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Supacat



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Would it have been too expensive for JLR to have offered the steel wheels in all the sizes?
Post #866686 11th Nov 2020 10:51am
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Tim in Scotland



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Probably not, but I see in a review of the new Bronco that Ford are offering steely-a-like alloys that look quite nice too, which Land Rovef could also do. It’s at 4 mins 20ish in this video. The Bronco does look rather like a Freelander 1 Hard Back on Steroids in those photos.

 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #866690 11th Nov 2020 11:04am
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W84IT



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DSL wrote:
Have to agree with him, bit of a rubbish load cover!


I didn't like the load space cover at first but I've now grown to love it after having to load some large items in the cargo area a few times. The cover easily folds up and can be stored under the cargo floor or just tucked into the storage pockets in the tailgate. I have the hard folding loadspace cover in my L405 and it's never that easy to store it when I need to load large items in the cargo area. Ray
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Supacat



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Doug DeMuro (@DougDeMuro) Tweeted:
Made it (there)!

3,100 miles, Noodle’s first snow, and Defender has been a champ. No issues except a rock chip windshield crack. https://t.co/4T5vAH5TLP https://twitter.com/DougDeMuro/status/1340839773242613763?s=20


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Supacat



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Interesting...

Doug DeMuro (@DougDeMuro) Tweeted:
Lots going on today, but made it home. Here are the final trip computer numbers and a few shots of the dirty Defender from the journey.

Big update Friday More Doug covering what I liked, what I didn’t like, and what broke! https://t.co/YMumB6Ve4w https://twitter.com/DougDeMuro/status/1346982024985280514?s=20



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