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benspray



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Chawton White
ABS conversion / retro fit
Hi all

Considering retrofitting ABS and therefore traction control to my 2006 model year TD5 130.
I know this was never a factory option in the 130 but does anyone know why? The ecu and valve block is the same between 90 and 110 so can't see those wouldn't work - the only thing I can think is that the rear sensors will need the wires extending somehow.

I've bought all of the wiring/ecu/servo/master cylinder/valve block just not the axles yet as was hoping for some complete with sensors etc that I can just swap out.

Cheers
Ben
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Linds Hanson



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Should work just fine but be careful with used modulators they aren't the most reliable particularly on vehicles that stand around and don't get regular fluid changes
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geobloke



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Re: ABS conversion / retro fit
benspray wrote:
Hi all

Considering retrofitting ABS and therefore traction control to my 2006 model year TD5 130.
I know this was never a factory option in the 130 but does anyone know why? The ecu and valve block is the same between 90 and 110 so can't see those wouldn't work - the only thing I can think is that the rear sensors will need the wires extending somehow.

I've bought all of the wiring/ecu/servo/master cylinder/valve block just not the axles yet as was hoping for some complete with sensors etc that I can just swap out.

Cheers
Ben


Hi Ben. Often thought of doing the exact same thing with my 2003 110. Where the heck did you find all the wiring from?! Good plan to do the mod though.

Plan B for me is the fitting of Ashcroft ATB diff centres as a mechanical alternative.

Looking forward to your install Smile
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Landyash



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Think Ive got a webco ecu if anybody needing one Thumbs Up
Post #908912 22nd Jun 2021 9:17am
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benspray



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Cheers guys

yep re the wiring I bought an "XS" spec fully loaded bulkhead/main loom with ABS etc included - YMC500863 that contains everything you need and plugs straight into the sensors on the axles (albeit I'm assuming the rears will be 17 inches short for a 130 lol).

Not looking forward to the loom swap though but will allow me to fit heated windscreen/heated seats, electric windows central locking etc to my previously poverty spec 130 Smile

Initially I was looking for a YMC500903 loom which is the XS spec minus ABS but this one came up at a reasonable price and given the 130s tendency to instantly lock the wheels up in the wet I though it may be worth it.....

ps I do have another loom here YMC500872 which has ABS but no heated seats/windscreen that I may have up for sale at some point.

Regards
Ben
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benspray



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if anyone has any scrap rear ABS sensors I'd be interested to cut the wiring off and see how easy it would be to make a short extension out of them Smile
Cheers
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Shroppy



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It just so happens I have a pair of rear sensors sitting on the shelf Thumbs Up 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
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bankz5152



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You can buy Wabco extensions off ebay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WABCO-TRUCK-ABS...890.l49286

It would be worth changing the shuttle valve before fitting the modulator and potentially doing the wiring mod at the same time. Reduce any future issues. Instagram @defender_ventures
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benspray



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Cheers

Didn't really think that ABS extension wires would be an off the shelf thing but pretty handy Wink
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blackwolf



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I believe that they are used extensively on HGVs.
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MadTom



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No need to look for old ABS sensors as a wire source. The wire from sensor is just a pair of twisted wire in secondary rubber cover. I have repaired several broken wires, replacing parts of them with hand twisted two FLRY wires and covering them in heatshrink tubes.
Using old wires is not the best idea, they can crack because of their age and previous use.
I had the same idea, retrofiting ABS to 130, but I have to renovate the car first. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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Linds Hanson



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bankz5152 wrote:
You can buy Wabco extensions off ebay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WABCO-TRUCK-ABS...890.l49286

It would be worth changing the shuttle valve before fitting the modulator and potentially doing the wiring mod at the same time. Reduce any future issues.
The shuttle valve is just one of many issues that cause modulator faults, out of all vehicles D2 and Defenders appear to have more than average modulator faults
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glpinxit



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Just on 'keeping TD5 ABS working'. When I had mine, I used to plug my Nanocom in periodically and run the pump once for each corner. If I didn't do this it became sluggish (and always speeded up noticeably as I worked my way round the corners). Cheers, Guy.
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