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| 110 Iain Member Since: 11 Nov 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 82   
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Having issues with starter running on after failed start it has been doing it off and on for over a year in that time have replaced battery
New bosh starter checked earth cables new relay new ignition switch and it is still doing it can go months starts first time then have period of days can do it 3 4 times a day its a pain trying to get positive cable of or hitting starter with stick that I now carry to stop it anyone out there have any experience of this. Endeavour To Persevere |
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18th Apr 2021 4:05pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17485 
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I have a feeling that there was a TSB on this subject early in the life of the Puma, I think it was the starter switch causing the problem.
https://www.defender2.net/forum/post6633.html |
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18th Apr 2021 8:14pm |
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| 110 Iain Member Since: 11 Nov 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 82
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Thanks Blackwolf it's the worst kind of fault being intermittent having said that it's now done it 3 days in a row might order another ignition barrel one fitted only 6 months old hope it's not a starter fault don't fancy replacing that again thanks for help again!! Endeavour To Persevere
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19th Apr 2021 8:25am |
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| 110 Iain Member Since: 11 Nov 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 82
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Thanks for advice I'm not happy with live connection who designed that fitting have fiddled with it of and on to get it tighter replacement 80 quid
Check battery and all good output 14.7 volts will need to rule out that connection was underneath it today and noticed steering box is spewing fluid oh the joys of Landy ownership thanks for input Endeavour To Persevere |
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19th Apr 2021 4:15pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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The battery terminals are very poor and buying a new one is unlikely to fix the problem. However, there is an easy fix by shimming the terminal with a sliver of 0.5mm thick copper:
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19th Apr 2021 6:29pm |
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| 110 Iain Member Since: 11 Nov 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 82
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Thanks for advice on terminal will have rummage around for a bit of copper and try tomorrow ground lead is OK replaced with heavy duty bolt terminal. Endeavour To Persevere
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19th Apr 2021 8:08pm |
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| MatLandy Member Since: 11 Sep 2020 Location: Paris Posts: 187  
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Have you checked the nut on the starter motor side is torqued properly (like really tight)?
The one nut connecting the main positive power lead cable onto the starter motor. You will need a 13 mm socket/spanner for this, some dexterity and small hands will help to reach it, and be extra careful not to touch any other parts with your spanner or else you'll trigger proper sparks. Might as well disconnect the ground at the battery side. While you're at it, there is a also a round metal bar connecting the solenoid to the starter motor and that bar is aimed at carrying the high amps required for cranking. There is a nut that holds the bar on one side, this nut also needs to be torqued properly. I seem to remember this is a 11 mm nut. Really fiddly to reach though, access is limited and it's very dark down there. This winter, while having starting gremlins on my 2.4, I clocked both of these nuts by a 1/4 turn, and it made a world of a difference. I now always get positive cranking each time, no matter what the voltage the battery is at, even down to 12.1V in the cold. No more flat battery type of symptoms. No more cranking for too many seconds before the engine fires. No more click from the solenoid and then nothing happens. Amazing what magic a 1/4 turn on a nut can do. /Mat |
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27th Apr 2021 4:57pm |
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| 110 Iain Member Since: 11 Nov 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 82
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Thanks for input will tackle this this weekend suffering various erattic starting mostly starts first time but regularly spins over but fails to start first time if I keep cranking a bit to long this is when starter sticks I never know what it's going to do when cold I leave ignition on a bit past glow plug light going out think it helps a bit thanks again for help Endeavour To Persevere
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27th Apr 2021 5:17pm |
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