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| BogMonster Member Since: 05 Feb 2008 Location: Stanley Posts: 400   
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A quick question - if you have an Ifor Williams tipper fitted with 13 pin electrics, does it charge the tipper battery off the vehicle when it is running?
My vehicles have 7 pin electrics but the Ifor has 13 - I just have an adaptor at present but wondered if it was worth changing to 13. At the moment I just charge it manually (I have a solar panel that I attach to the trailer when it is parked up) but if you are using it a few times in a day I guess the battery must get well down. I've never seen it mentioned anywhere so perhaps the answer is no. --- 2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi |
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28th Mar 2021 9:04pm |
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| stew 46 Member Since: 26 Jan 2012 Location: Wadebridge ,cornwall . Posts: 561  
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The solar sounds a good idea
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28th Mar 2021 9:14pm |
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| BogMonster Member Since: 05 Feb 2008 Location: Stanley Posts: 400
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The solar works well for occasional use. It's actually an old electric fence energiser that packed up, but the solar panel and charge regulator was still OK, so I dismantled it and put a few feet of cable in and a matching plug inside the control box. I can charge it anywhere (handy as it is usually parked >100m from the nearest power) but it takes a few days as the solar panel only puts out a couple of amps max.
The bit that it doesn't solve is charging while operating, hence the question. --- 2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi |
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29th Mar 2021 9:37am |
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| Herdwick Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 31 |
As far as I can tell - no, it doesnt charge the battery.
We do most of our distance towing on our tipper using a vehicle with a 13pin connection, and the battery still loses charge (Does not charge), in exactly the same way when connected via an adapter to the 7pin on our Defender. Unless - the 13 pin is not wired correctly for that on the car, had it from new, but its a Cayenne.  |
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29th Mar 2021 12:06pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2529  
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If you look at the 13pin plug on your IW trailer you'll see that it only has 8 pins - so the answer is no. I'm in the process of rewiring one of my IW trailers to replace the 8 core cable with 13 core and replace the 8 pin plug with a "proper" 13 pin plug.
It annoys me that they don't offer the option of 13 core/13 pin plugs and cable when ordering a new trailer.  Defender 90XS SW
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29th Mar 2021 12:46pm |
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| BogMonster Member Since: 05 Feb 2008 Location: Stanley Posts: 400
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OK thanks - oh well, back to the solar then. Interestingly while trying to find out if the trailers charged, I came across a patent IW applied for around a trailer charging system, I guess they just don't bother to use it! https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2522036A/en I must admit I hadn't looked at the plug as it's been in a 7 pin adaptor since I bought it.... --- 2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi |
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30th Mar 2021 9:08am |
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| west4x4 Member Since: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Rutland Posts: 140
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No they don’t. Youcan fit an Anderson plug and connect both batteries that way. It’s annoying battery access particularly loaded is so bad when you’ve just the hand pump and a bed full of stone
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1st May 2021 9:32pm |
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| BogMonster Member Since: 05 Feb 2008 Location: Stanley Posts: 400
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I fixed that problem with a lead and a socket inside the control box so I can plug in a charger with the bed down - it's a complete pain otherwise. With the solar charger I can charge it anywhere it is parked, it's just when I am using it that the capacity is a concern.
Which reminds me - must go and give it a top up before the winter! --- 2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi |
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3rd May 2021 9:36am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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One of my current grievances with the 13 pin system is that nobody seems to make a fully wired 13 pin "curly" cable! |
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3rd May 2021 2:48pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1785  
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On my old 100" bitsa I had a 2" receiver hitch for the tow bar plus a winch mounted on a 2" box powered by an adjacent Anderson socket.
I then made up a welding cable Anderson / Anderson lead and fitted another plug to the Ifor Tipper so it would charge at a good rate whilst driving, or even lift off the 100" battery if my mate had flattened it using it with his Disco. I also made a short lead Anderson to croc clips so I had a rear mounted jump start socket either from or to the 100" I was working at an establishment that had a good supply of welding cable, Anderson sockets, clips etc..... I now try and remember to charge the new Ifor, I think its less work. Keith |
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3rd May 2021 6:52pm |
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