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camelman



Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
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Unfortunate end to 130 and 90..

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Post #888541 1st Mar 2021 8:37pm
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htb2



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Not nice to see, was a tidy early 130 as well.
Post #888542 1st Mar 2021 8:40pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
just saw that on faceache an resisted from posting. weight wasnt exactly in 90s favour. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #888543 1st Mar 2021 8:43pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Bet hes over on the trailer and over GTW too. still unfortunate and not nice, i wouldnt like to be in it. Looks like 90 took roll quite well. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #888544 1st Mar 2021 8:44pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Rectangular rear doors, a rare vehicle indeed.

Someone must be really miserable now.
Post #888545 1st Mar 2021 8:44pm
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Mdm



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no comment on the short trl or the rear overhang as long as they all walked away ok.

what's worse is the recovery firm who took pictures just rolled the lot back over complete. no air bags no cranes. didnt split the motor or trl off the landy.

hope they get rebuilt and were insured.
Post #888548 1st Mar 2021 8:54pm
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seriesonenut



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yes an early 127 Big Cry

lets hope all involved were not injured. Sad end to a rare vehicle 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
Post #888553 1st Mar 2021 9:10pm
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90 Dreamer



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
One thing in his favour was its was obviously well strapped......... Embarassed

Anyone know the actual cause??
Post #888558 1st Mar 2021 9:33pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I would doubt that that was overweight. Trailer appears to be an IW LM146 (just like mine) which unladen as a flatbed is around 0.5 tonnes. An empty 130, assuming it was complete and empty, is likely to be around 2.5 tonnes, so the gross trailed weight I'd expect to be over 3 but under 3.5 tonnes, so within limits for the 90, the trailer, and gross train weight.

However there is very limited scope for adjusting the nose weight, and very little margin of safety. There are numerous ways it could go terribly wrong, many of them not the fault of the driver.

Let's hope no-one was hurt and everything was insured. There's nothing in the LR world that cannot be rebuilt, but I can't imagine what the owner of the 127 is feeling now.
Post #888560 1st Mar 2021 9:36pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
my LM146 was heavier than 500kg and i know my 130 is heavy with nothing in it. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #888563 1st Mar 2021 9:50pm
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camelman



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My 130 is 2400kg with roofrack, tent and camping gear. 
Post #888564 1st Mar 2021 9:56pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
under weight then blackwolf is right. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #888598 2nd Mar 2021 9:50am
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L90Andy



Member Since: 29 May 2014
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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
Saw this on FB, iirc it was off to the new owner after a restoration. The previous owner saw it and was as cross as you'd expect having done all the hard work! Evil or Very Mad Instagram: L90andy

My 1984 Ninety: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56071.html - SOLD!
My 2015 Defender: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39625.html - SOLD!
Post #888600 2nd Mar 2021 10:14am
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Seen it posted everywhere, what a disaster, trashed on delivery! Big Cry The good news I read is no one was hurt and going back to be rebuilt. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
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Post #888609 2nd Mar 2021 11:24am
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Wild Card 90



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England 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
That must have been both frightening and heartbreaking! Shocked Having towed many heavy trailers with 90Âīs, I can fully sympathise with the poor chap in the tow vehicle.
Big Cry
To be honest, it is amazing that the 90 is allowed to pull the same load (3.5 tons) as the 110. The lighter weight and short wheelbase combined with suspension that makes the vehicle an excellent off-roader, are an unfortunate combination for a tow vehicle. It only takes a few kilos too few at the hitch and a soft swell in the road surface at 50 mph and the tail will wag the dog. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
2008 Td4 90 SW,
2012 2.2 90 SW,
2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma
Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs,
Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons
Post #888620 2nd Mar 2021 12:52pm
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