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Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5804

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Whitbread Offroad Roll Cage.....anyone used or bought one?

Hello all,

Just looking at a roll cage for the DC. I've come across Whitbread Off-road in my travels. Has anyone used them? Ordered or have one of their roll cages?

Quite a price difference to Safety Devices (£500) and as I am not getting an internal version nor does it need to be FIA competition spec, I'm happy to look further afield. They seem to be used some Mountain Rescue teams, and in some form of competition, so I'm presuming at face value that the cages do the job.

Any thoughts? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

3rd Dec 2020 7:20am

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2634

Hi Grenadier

I can’t speak about the Whitbread version, but I am sure someone else can help out.

I have the full external cage from Safety Devices for my 90 TD5 HD. I had fitted an internal / external PP cage to my previous 300 110.

The reason for choosing SD was the following when comparing to others

The cage fits closer to the body work, looks neater, keeps the height as low as possible, less likely to snag a branch between the cage and body work.

Bolt together, myself and my brother fitted on the drive in three days. Some companies charged £1500 and wanted the car for the week to fit. DIY saves that chunk of cash.

You can fit the chassis to inside body work first and use the supplied blanks to cover the holes. This means that you can fit the upper external cage at your leisure if tight for time.

Terrafirma stockists can supply the SD cage within days as it is a stocked item, I ordered mine from Kieth Gotts on a Tuesday and collected it on the Friday.

PP took four weeks and then mixed my Order with someone’s else’s so I did not have all the correct parts, I had to wait for the other person to send back their wrong parts before PP would send them to me. I assumed that they don’t keep spares on the shelf.

Some cages are welded only, I can’t do that and did not want to be without the car for a week. Again the issue I found with the welded version was that some business would not comment to how far out the cage sat from the body work.

The SD cage also does not look like an explosion of scaffold tubes with cross brancing in all directions. The cage will not save the car just slow down the rate of collapse.

Hope that helps.

Good luck

3rd Dec 2020 9:48am

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10381

I've owned one (and SD and P&P cages).

A mate had a Whitbread cage fitted and managed to use it the very next day.

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3rd Dec 2020 2:10pm

camelman

Member Since: 27 Feb 2013
Location: Peak District
Posts: 3372

SD were doing a deal on fitting when I bought mine so got it fitted at their factory

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3rd Dec 2020 2:31pm

Matt110

Member Since: 29 Jun 2014
Location: UK
Posts: 680

Snap. We had ours done by the factory too. Great guy fitted it can't remember his name now, superb experience at the time.

My only issue is it seems they've forgotten to do up one of the nuts which attaches the front of the cage to the chassis outrigger, which was a disappointment - i've only just found it whilst in there fitting my FBH, and know it wasn't done up from new because it's a nyloc thats only just into the nylon retainer bit and nowhere near any clamp point.

Have a look round yours I'd suggest just in case.

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3rd Dec 2020 3:41pm

chopcat

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 411

Likewise i have a SD external cage and it has been brill. 20 years old. Been re powder coated once when the chassis was changed and has stopped the top peeling off with the roof tent when we rattled about in the Sahara.

It is now home to a bit of a pneumatic mast which it handles with no complaints.

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3rd Dec 2020 6:07pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10381

I love that chopcat, i looked on your website the other day... after looking at KE5EE’s array

3rd Dec 2020 9:04pm

chopcat

Member Since: 11 Sep 2012
Location: Pembrokeshire
Posts: 411

Now that might prove a bit of a challenge even for the defender. I could see it lying on its site after a strong gust of wind !

3rd Dec 2020 9:18pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

Mine is a North Off-road.

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1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

3rd Dec 2020 9:44pm

sako243

Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 1218

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

I've been up to their workshops to collect some bits for a mate (they're reasonably local to me) and they've certainly got the skills there.

I'm not a fan of how far out they normally sit. As they're just a small company (family and a few mates) it's worth bearing in mind they can customise pretty much anything so might be worth bearing in mind. Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi

3rd Dec 2020 11:06pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5804

Thanking you all. SD have always been first choice for rep/build etc, also look (as pointed out on above, offering the lowest profiles). But looking into it a bit more and actually I might have to weld and spray the cage from Whitbread as well. Wipes out any 500 quid saving as I’d have to send myself on a welding course and then rent the kit.

But safety is what matters most, so thanks again for reinforcing that SD is the way to go. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

4th Dec 2020 7:29am

sako243

Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 1218

Don't rent, buy. And the welding would be an investment

.

Years ago bought myself a MIG, then ended up with a TIG and recently had a friend (used to be a gas pipe welder among other things) show me how to stick.

You'll quickly save the money back on the welder. Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi

4th Dec 2020 7:34am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8024

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

roel wrote:
Mine is a North Off-road.

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very good cages, well respected Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

4th Dec 2020 8:32am

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

North delivered good quality but then as I ordered a flat pack I had to weld it myself. So the quality is now more depending on me then on north.

Next to hitting some trees and other item in my way the best test is pictured below:

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I got stuck here and broke my winch cable. Then we tried to pull with 2 winches. No luck. After that we found that a tree truck was stuck before the chassis crossmember so just after this picture my 90 was pulled over and winched out easily.

The cages did move at all It kept the same distances to the roof gutter so I am happy.
My case is not completely standard. I have a cross in the middle hoop and the front part is bolted to the middle hoop so I can remove it easier when needed. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

4th Dec 2020 11:45am

Merlin

Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
Location: Newmarket
Posts: 981

I chose Whitbread as the Army use them and I thought you couldn't get a better recommendation than that. Been off once when I had a respray, painted now with Raptor. Have used it to winch myself out sideways. They also fitted a bull-bar which has saved many a impact down a lane. Peter

Cage off and un-painted:

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Front bull bar:

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Full external cage bolted to chassis:

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4th Dec 2020 1:20pm

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