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i said, then i switched the the light switch off then on, got headlights again, big phew, so all the way home i never used the main beam again but as i was about 5 minutes away from home, the headlights went out 
| jfh Member Since: 08 Jan 2014 Location: West Coast Posts: 360   
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I used old male and female plugs and made a loom, with a relay built in, to make it plug and play.
Now at about 5 or 6 years and no problems. In the last 20 years I've lost 3 switches, so I got fed up and made it. It's just one relay to remove the ampere load from the switch. |
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8th Dec 2020 6:34pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810 
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Thanks jfh for the info, i will be trying to make up a relay loom and will be doing this hopefully sometime next year
so on the way home last night and guess what, yes the lights went out  so the next thing to change is the yellow relay under the fuses, i think it's something to do with the dim dip lights, the one in Millie is still the original one, so fingers crossed  1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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9th Dec 2020 8:36pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1848 
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If I were you Clayton, I'd just remove the dim dip completely. I've done that on mine a while ago.
If my memory's correct I think the most 'difficult' thing was making up a short jumper cable to cross two points on another of the relays. At least it makes the wiring simpler and easier to fault trace. As I understand it it's also better for the headlight bulbs, that they're not burning at low voltage. Certainly if you're going to consider replacing parts of that system anyway, then I'd thinking about ditching it. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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10th Dec 2020 8:47am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17466  
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All you need to do is unplug the dim dip resistor.
If you make up a loom (in the Boomslang style) you will have to disable the dim dip because otherwise you'll be trying to energise your relays on a reduced voltage. |
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10th Dec 2020 1:12pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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Many thanks Donald, food for thought there
1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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11th Dec 2020 8:03pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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Is the dim dip resistor the yellow thing under the fuses Blackwolf ? if not, where is it please  1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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11th Dec 2020 8:04pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
at the top driver wing
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic9328-30.html page 3 |
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11th Dec 2020 8:08pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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Many thanks dorsetsmith
Will have a look for it tomorrow 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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11th Dec 2020 8:24pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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So to bring this thread hopefully to a close and the final update
As Millie went into my indie for some needed work on her, i asked my indy to have a look at my lights to see if he can find the fault, so i went back to pick Millie up, on the 3rd day and he had found the problem with the lights, there was not one fault but three
The first fault was the new light switch i had put in, it was not working at 100%. the second problem was the pink relay for the dim dip lights was not working, so he did away with the relay and added some wires  Click image to enlarge The third fault was the yellow relay under the fuses, he changed that one for one he new worked 100% So my headlights work all ok and now i don't have dim dip anymore and my headlights, dipped beam and main beam are much brighter than before, well happy with the out come 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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14th Dec 2020 9:48pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Sounds like a result, Clayton. Hopefully, that will be the last of your headlight woes. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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15th Dec 2020 6:15am |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5208
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I will put money on the switch killing the two relays, I think you can get these relays off most MG Rover cars. I have a few spare relays off the rover metro, ( i took the fuse box system out of the car) So it might be worth you having a look at a few rovers ( if they are still in scrap yards now) just for handful of relays. I cannot remember if it was the wiper one or the light one i tested from the metro, and it worked. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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15th Dec 2020 10:57pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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^ ^ ^
Iv'e done away with one relay and have a plan sometime next year to help the head light switch out  1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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16th Dec 2020 9:05pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10810
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Hopefully it will be Darren 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper. Clayton. |
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16th Dec 2020 9:06pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
help the head light switch out
add a relay to remove load from head light switch 
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17th Dec 2020 7:46am |
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