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| tango90 Member Since: 26 Apr 2020 Location: Kildare Posts: 33  
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Would I buy a Bronco over a Defender? YES YES YES YES and YES who wouldn't. I wonder could you import one?
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20th Aug 2020 8:21pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3394 
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You’d be able to import one. State 51 Autos I think their called in Essex import the American pick up trucks, so I’d imagine they will get the Bronco eventually.
Must admit if it was available in the uk I’d certainly be tempted. |
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20th Aug 2020 8:43pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 817 
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steering wheel will be on the wrong side, they are not providing for the right hand drive
markets it seems from a few press reports yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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21st Aug 2020 3:11am |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712  
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His figures on the load space can’t be right surely?? How does a vehicle of similar proportions have over twice the luggage capacity?? I think he needs to go over his research as I think ford has included the seat space in its figures.
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21st Aug 2020 8:54am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I think he’s quoting some with seats up for the Defender and seats down for the Bronco Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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21st Aug 2020 10:20am |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712
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Your right Tim, a quick check has found the defender has up to a 1946L capacity with the seating area. This is either extremely shoddy fact checking or a deliberate attempt to make the defender seem worse. I’m nit picking really because the bloke irritates me anyway
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21st Aug 2020 12:14pm |
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| tango90 Member Since: 26 Apr 2020 Location: Kildare Posts: 33
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Well regardless of his facts the Bronco is a better design and Ford obviously listened to what the buying public wanted. Land Rover obviously DIDN'T and built what McGovern believes a Defender should be which in fact is the polar opposite.
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21st Aug 2020 6:40pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2630  
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I think that the main market difference between the the Bronco and the Defender is something as simple as use.
By that i mean look at the UK and the US buying markets. UK on the whole buy vehicles via PCP contracts, the vehicle is not theirs. The leasing company expects the vehicle to be returned in (almost) as new condition or the owner can finance the outstanding amount until it is paid off. Generally not a good idea in the UK due to the fact that the depreciation is greater than the value of the vehicle against any outstanding finance. Any offroading / bramble rash just adds to the depreciation of the vehicle and not a badge of honour. In the US. The majority of vehicles are bought via personal loans. the vehicle is theirs. this means that the owner is free to use the vehicle as they wish, modify it as they wish. In the US they have a bigger fabricating industry than we have, when the JL and then the Gladiator were released the aftermarket was ready to upgrade brand new vehicles and the owners ready to hit the trails. Look at Britpart here, they have just started to advertise steel winch bumpers for the Discovery 3,that was released in 2004! I believe the US aftermarket will be all over the Bronco and will have products ready very shortly after its release to the public. That public is not afraid to offroad their rigs. Will we see the likes of Devon 4x4 bring out a range of upgrades for the New Defender, I think not, for the reasons i have given above. Will the US market fabricators work their magic on the New Defender State side, again i think not because of the limited market and that the big money is with Jeep and soon Bronco Oh, forgot to mention air suspension and the lack of a 35 inch tyre, Americans like their big tyres..... |
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21st Aug 2020 8:24pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 718
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LHD is quite usable in the UK. You need to learn a different technique to turn left at a T-junction. Overtaking requires a different thought pattern. And carpark ticket machines and drive-thru's are not as easy. The rest of the time it is no problem though. |
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21st Aug 2020 8:57pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 718
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21st Aug 2020 8:57pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 718
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Are you 100% sure on the above? I think a lot of cars in the US are bought on finance, something that has been happening over there since the 1960s... Also PCP is not a lease. Last edited by Chicken Drumstick on 21st Aug 2020 9:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Aug 2020 8:59pm |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 712
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@ tango90
Not knocking the bronco by any means, I really like it, and ford certainly seems to have done its lineage justice, I also really like the defender, not for a replacement for any of my original defenders as I don’t think anything will, but for the vehicle it is. As I said, was just nit picking the journalism not the vehicles. |
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21st Aug 2020 9:01pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 817
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i drove a RHD car in Germany for 3 1/2 years when stationed there.. so was use to the approach of looking down the near side to judge overtaking opportunities and hazards 
A number of articles that made it plain Ford were not catering for those markets, so it will likely have to be the personal or specialised importers route. Be interesting whether Ford franchises would service them? I remember when Nissan Skylines in the UK were only grey imports, their dealers would not touch them. In Australia any LHD vehicle has to converted to RHD if they are under 15 years old, so only classics can retain LHD, so it will be a costly exercise in this market, the Bronco faces stiff competition from the the likes of Nissan and Toyota.. i would suspect a few enthusiasts will bring them in and convert them.. but the Landcruiser and Patrol will continue to reign supreme.. yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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21st Aug 2020 11:12pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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One big deterrent to importing a LHD car into the U.K. is the cost to insure it and getting parts. I’m sure that Bronco in the U.K. will become another huge hit with premier league footballers and successful rap artists like the Caddy Escalade and the Ford Raptor pick-up have. People whose monthly salary is 2 or 3 times most people’s annual salary means that huge insurance premiums don’t bother them. There’s also the cost to fuel these gas guzzling behemoths in the U.K. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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22nd Aug 2020 8:01am |
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