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LEZ



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J77 - I have been told by my dealer that the info LR online chat support is providing is from the original marketing launch and is out of date, thus no new 90's in showrooms until 2021. I dunno Sad
Post #852401 27th Aug 2020 3:35pm
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J77



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Yeah I suspect so. I asked the same question twice, the first response was word for word from the configurator, “Due to coronavirus....blah, blah” so I asked again and they gave me that info, just tell the customer what they want to hear kind of mentality.

Makes no difference to me really as I won’t be taking delivery until March 21 anyway.
Post #852406 27th Aug 2020 3:53pm
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Chicken Drumstick



Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Here is the New Defender 90’s stats from the e-brochure


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Thanks Tim. So 4583mm excluding the spare wheel. Bumper to
Bumper (or rear door) as it were. Which is 180.4”

I’ve checked up on the Discovery 1 also. Bumper to bumper excluding the spare (which sits mostly over the bumper) is 176” and a classic Range Rover is 174”.

So I was wrong. The new 90 is 4.4” longer than a Disco1! Shocked


A traditional 90 bumper to bumper (well rear cross member) is only 142”
Post #852435 27th Aug 2020 5:48pm
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J77



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^ it’s 4583mm including the tyre, I think it’s just over 4300mm excluding the tyre.



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Post #853243 30th Aug 2020 9:19pm
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NinetyTD4



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Just one remark, everybody is talking environment and JLR is blowing the Defender 90 from a small multi-purpose car to a fat lady? I am driving to the continent frequently and I read the minimum sizes with increased shocks. Over 2.10 wide means right lane in construction areas on most motorways and German autobahn - so stuck behind the big guys. Also almost 600 mm added in length, JLR are you serious? Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
Post #853274 31st Aug 2020 7:04am
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Retroanaconda



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Most cars are much wider these days, remember the old Defender’s width was more or less set with the Series II back in the late 50s and never updated thereafter.

The 90 looks good but, in exactly the same way as the previous model, the rear is a terrible compromise between seating and load-carrying. Impressive really that they’ve managed to carry this feature through despite the increase in vehicle size!

The commercial variant will be worth having as it won’t have the silly seats in the way.
Post #853279 31st Aug 2020 7:39am
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J77



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I’ve thought about the commercial but adding the VAT makes it less attractive.
Post #853374 31st Aug 2020 3:45pm
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GREENI



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Been to 2 dealers today, hoping to see a 90... no dice.
Post #853377 31st Aug 2020 4:17pm
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J77



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You won’t, no dealers have them yet.
Post #853383 31st Aug 2020 4:43pm
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AndrewS



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J77 wrote:
I’ve thought about the commercial but adding the VAT makes it less attractive.


Non commercial attract vat the same as commercial. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #853469 31st Aug 2020 9:16pm
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J77



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Yes but £35.5k plus VAT start price makes it more expensive than the passenger version at £40k inc VAT
Post #853482 31st Aug 2020 10:07pm
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cozz



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but as a business you can claim the VAT back on commercial

thats what im waiting for


my local dealer has 90 debut on 18th Sept (passenger one though, not commercial)

so dunno where you all got this 2021 stuff from
Post #853669 1st Sep 2020 7:14pm
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J77



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I’m not a business.

We got the info from the same place you got yours.
Post #853672 1st Sep 2020 7:20pm
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Pacha



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J77 wrote:
Yes but £35.5k plus VAT start price makes it more expensive than the passenger version at £40k inc VAT


That makes no sense? Rgds.

Chris
Post #853674 1st Sep 2020 7:31pm
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LEZ



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Cozz - We got all this 2021 stuff from our local dealers, will be interesting to know if any dealers do actually have 90's in their showrooms before 2021.
Post #853755 2nd Sep 2020 7:30am
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