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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I see your point, but the same could be said of off road driving. Imagine, if to cover the same legal liability JLR said the vehicle had been designed for on road driving only?
You can't have your cake and eat it, if it's the best off road vehicle in the world, then it needs recovery points designed for use off road and JLR need to stand behind that. |
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RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 595 ![]() ![]() |
rock and a hard place with elements like this, your right but I to do it they bring up H&S for straps, shackles and load ratings and might even have to supply proper training to the customer. i wonder if the winch states not for off road use now that would be interesting, or does it disclaimer stating customers must have appropriate training.
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3425 ![]() ![]() |
I think they’ve updated it
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RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 595 ![]() ![]() |
That makes better sense they have covered their backsides
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 ![]() ![]() |
And they would like to flog you a training course at an LRE for a lot of ££££’s to cover their asses further!
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Any mention of the exposed rear towing eyes/loops?
I think I've found the source of the original wording - they cut & pasted the words from the old Defender Owner's Handbook when it referred to the weedy steel plate eyes: ![]() Click image to enlarge |
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SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 663 ![]() ![]() |
What are the bolt pattern dimensions on these. Are they the standard 4 hole size, ala NATO hitch, TD5/TDCI crossmember or different?
Thanks 👍 |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Right - I had thought that it being an iGuide, I'd get a notification of any amendment, or even an icon from within to allow me to check for updates. I don't seem to have either. Am I missing something? |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3425 ![]() ![]() |
I find the website is more use
https://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/ |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17564 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
IF the photo below is anything to go by, they are not even remotely similar. ![]() Click image to enlarge |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks - so it's the same message now for the rear exposed eyes: "The rear exposed towing eyes are designed for both on-road and off-road recovery (up to 6.5 tonnes). If the exposed towing eyes are used for any other purpose, it may result in vehicle damage and can cause serious injury or death." And if the 4 bolts are M12 10.9 they have a tensile strength of 28 tonnes; so safety factor of just over 4:1. |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Are you planning on recovering from them off road? |
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SteveG Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Norfolk Posts: 663 ![]() ![]() |
Yes looking at that pic, they look certainly too wide. Cheers 👍 |
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zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 823 ![]() ![]() |
the Recovery rings i ordered 10 days ago from PowerfulUK have rocked up in Sydney,
delivery time is quite prompt considering all this covid crap going on. Dealer has confirmed they will fit them as they are genuine LR parts, but cannot give me a cost, ah the good old time and material sales trick at LR rates ![]() ![]() MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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