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jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8050

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

60k 2010 would get my vote.

120k is alot of wear on everything. Assuming Mechanical will have been done as required across the board others things like seats, steering, suspension will need some love.

The 08 plate has potentially done lots of short trips, or is it weekends only use? Possibly more prone to early puma woes.

My 11 plate, 64k still needed new rear crossmember Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

17th Jun 2020 4:05pm

Pickles

Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3785

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green

Everyone will have their own views on mileage. Me?..I believe that a low mileage, original vehicle, with a solid service/ownership history is a good place to start.
Pickles.

18th Jun 2020 12:07am

andydef90

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 617

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

as above

18th Jun 2020 5:59am

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Re: Looking at a few puma defenders, question on mileage

Race.it wrote:
So looking to get a puma defender.

I have seen 3 one has 23k on it and is a 2008
Another is 59k and a 2010
And another is 120k but a 2012

They are all the 2.4 versions, now I can seen the mileage history and all look to be fine (not tampered with)

They are all the same trim level (basic) same price, give or take 1k

Which one would be the best option from your opinion?

Most important is how it was cared for. I have seen bullsh*t Defender TD4 coming back from commercial leasing and looking ready for scrapyard after 2 to 3 years. When the tranny came, everybody was aware it might be the last version of it and it became a lifestyle object - all the baby boomers having grown up looking at Landrovers finally tried to let a dream come true and ordered Defender. I know of dealer just rolling the factory pre-assembled Defender as is from delivery to customer in masses - no final assembly, no corrosion protection, no cleaning - in high masses. If you get one, you will be surprise how bad a three year old can be.

I am surprised reading of a 2012 2.4 PUMA, do you mean registered 2012, so a late showroom car? Usually a MY2012 would be a 2.2 or?

My opinion on the three option:
- wouldn't go for the 2008, too close to the first 2007 year and maybe still has teething remains
- the 2010 reads reasonable and would be my number one to look at
- the 2012 I would question why it is a 2.4 on 2012, mileage is irrelevant if cared for correct Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

18th Jun 2020 6:38am

Race.it

Member Since: 27 Aug 2019
Location: Algeciras
Posts: 823

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alaska White

Hi,

I have not got the chassis number yet for the 2012 to check the actual build date but they keep telling me it’s a 2.4.

Basically I am trying to avoid the 2.2 as I don’t like the idea of the dpf. If I find out it’s a 2.2 then the 2012 is dropped.

The 2008 is actually registered 11/2008 so I guess that’s really a 2009. Any idea on how to confirm the model year?

Thanks all for the reply’s so far

John

18th Jun 2020 8:05pm

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 497

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Why drop the 2.2 ? Its clutch and EGR are more reliable. The injectors are piezzo and not magnetic - far more reliable.
There are also a few other improvements by Tata.

Is it the DPF ? Never had any issues and I've more than 100000 on the clock (1000...1500 rpm)...

I'd rather drop the 2.4s because they've been optimized (economized) by FORD

18th Jun 2020 9:09pm

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 497

Race.it wrote:
Any idea on how to confirm the model year?

They changed the font color of the logo :
In 2010, the symbol update happened: its gold color was replaced by the silver one.
https://listcarbrands.com/land-rover-logo/

Don't know if that helps ...

18th Jun 2020 9:16pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17441

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Julie wrote:
Why drop the 2.2 ? Its clutch and EGR are more reliable. The injectors are piezzo and not magnetic - far more reliable.
There are also a few other improvements by Tata.

Is it the DPF ? Never had any issues and I've more than 100000 on the clock (1000...1500 rpm)...

I'd rather drop the 2.4s because they've been optimized (economized) by FORD

It's simpler, easier to work on, has an identical clutch, no dpf, and better still has an oil pump that keeps working, plus a genuine 10AS not the counterfeit one used on the last 2.2s.

18th Jun 2020 9:41pm

Race.it

Member Since: 27 Aug 2019
Location: Algeciras
Posts: 823

What ^^ he said, but what’s a 10A?

19th Jun 2020 9:49am

williamthedog

Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
Location: south wales
Posts: 3441

^^ the alarm /immobiliser unit.

19th Jun 2020 10:52am

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 497

... and the 10AS is in the 2012 Defender, too

2.2 or 2.4 is a decision between an M1 car and an N1 utility (which saves you money, at least here in France) as well as EURO4 and EURO5 or Denso and Bosch injectors etc. etc.

If you love to work on cars, take a vehicle from the 1990s or earlier. The older the better. That's fun.

20th Jun 2020 9:31pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17441

There are plenty of N1 2.4 options, it's all down to body style.

20th Jun 2020 10:00pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8050

my 2.4 is no. From jul 10 onwards for 11my I believe. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

20th Jun 2020 10:08pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17441

Yes, plus any with a commercial body-style (such as a double cab) from introduction.

20th Jun 2020 10:34pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

Julie wrote:
2.2 or 2.4 is a decision between an M1 car and an N1 utility

No, late 2.4 starting production after summer 10 as MY2011 are all N1. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

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21st Jun 2020 1:30am

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