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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708   
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You wouldn't want it down your trouser leg. Perhaps it provides just enough stiffness as required. 130's have feeling's as well you know
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11th Jun 2020 8:49pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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12th Jun 2020 6:43am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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So not going after the Grenadier market then:
 Click image to enlarge "Exclusive Four-seat Bowler V8 We’re excited to reveal the first details of our latest project, a brand-new addition to the Bowler range codenamed ‘CSP 575’. As its name suggests, the ‘CSP 575’ will be a 575PS vehicle based on the tried and tested CSP platform which underpins our Rally Raid cars, but there’s a difference. This will be a road-going car with room for four and their luggage within the iconic shape of the original Land Rover Defender 110 Station Wagon. Created using our 35 years’ experience of building International Rally Raid cars, with engineering support from our friends at Jaguar Land Rover Special Vehicle Operations, the CSP 575 adds a little refinement for road use while still retaining the unmistakable rawness and motorsport passion of a Bowler. This is an off-road car designed for the road and will come with a full safety cage as well as air conditioning. This is the first new development since Jaguar Land Rover purchased Bowler in December 2019 and is the first of several new projects to be announced over the next couple of years. Don’t worry, we’re not straying from our motorsport roots. Although the final specification of the CSP 575 is still under wraps for now, we can confirm it will be powered by the phenomenal 5.0-litre Jaguar Land Rover Supercharged V8 petrol engine from the Range Rover Sport SVR, producing 575PS and a mountain of torque. At home in the desert, or on the road, the CSP 575 will be hand built to order at our factory in Derbyshire. Production will be limited, with customer deliveries anticipated from the second half of 2021. Pricing is anticipated to be around £200,000 in the UK, dependent on specification. To register your interest contact us directly on +44 (0) 1773 824 111 or email csp575@bowlermotorsport.com Sign up for further updates on the left-hand side to receive the latest information as we release it." Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge https://www.bowlermotors.com/bowler-cars/b...on-csp575/ And the text from the email is more bizarre : "The original Land Rover Defender silhouette lives on: Land Rover grants Bowler a licence to use iconic Defender shape in Project CSP 575 Land Rover has given us permission to produce vehicles using the classic Defender shape in the next phase of development for our all-terrain performance cars and rally raid vehicles. This new agreement paves the way for us to develop a new family of high-performance models, beginning with a project codenamed ‘CSP 575’ – a new road-going vehicle with our own rally-proven CSP high-strength steel chassis, aluminium alloy Defender 110 Station Wagon body panels and Land Rover’s 575PS Supercharged V8. This project will supplement the ongoing motorsport developments that are the foundation of our past, present and future plans. Initial renders of the planned 4x4 provide a glimpse of the rally-derived model, which will be the first new Bowler since 2016. Full details will be revealed early next year, but the competition-inspired off-roader promises to combine potent performance and motorsport-honed durability in a classic Defender 110 Station Wagon shape capable of accommodating four passengers. Founded in 1985, Bowler pioneered the production of dedicated off-road competition cars in the UK. Jaguar Land Rover acquired Bowler at the end of 2019 and its expert team has been developing a number of exciting projects as part of Special Vehicle Operations. Our customers are already benefiting from this relationship as Land Rover SV engineers are helping develop Bowler vehicles and using their engineering expertise to test Bowler products at Special Vehicle Operations’ world-class facilities. Land Rover’s decision to issue us with a licence agreement to build vehicles using the classic Defender shape is a natural progression of this relationship and the new station wagon project represents a unique undertaking – integrating the technology, components and engineering excellence underpinning Land Rover’s SV products with our motorsport expertise and experience. Michael van der Sande, Managing Director, Jaguar Land Rover Special Vehicle Operations, said: “We’re excited to announce the first major project since our acquisition of Bowler. The ‘CSP 575’ will combine Supercharged V8 performance and four-seat practicality with Bowler’s rally raid-proven CSP platform, broadening the appeal of the brand. This high-performance road-going model will sit alongside Bowler’s evolving range of rally raid models, which continue to enjoy success in the world’s toughest motorsport events.” The new model will be manufactured in very small quantities at our headquarters in Derbyshire, UK, by the same talented engineers and technicians who produce our competition 4x4s. With global appeal but targeted at customers in the UK, select European and overseas markets, indicative pricing for the new model is around £200,000 in the UK. Calum McKechnie, General Manager, Bowler Motors, said: “The Bowler name has stood for innovation for 35 years. The licence agreement to produce vehicles with the classic Defender shape gives us a unique opportunity. We’re excited to combine our motorsport experience with the expertise available from Special Vehicle Operations to produce a thrilling competition-inspired Defender 110 Station Wagon for the road.” Order books will open next year. For more details or to enquire about the new Bowler ‘CSP 575’ station wagon project, please click below the picture at the top. 📞 +44 (0) 1773 824 111 📧 info@bowlermotorsport.com" Bowler never needed a licence agreement in the previous 30 years? Either it's a way for the parent company to milk Bowler or there's a further challenge to Ineos on the design rights with the shape "returning" to production. Last edited by Supacat on 4th Nov 2020 7:45am. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Nov 2020 7:25am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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Do we not think it is hugely ironic that JLR buy Bowler and the first vehicle they release under new ownership is the old model, rather than the new 2020 model that LR are pushing as hard as they can? One would have thought they’d have nipped any old Defender projects in the bud (or at least put them on hold) and focused solely on the new model to be released to great fanfare as a sign of the new partnership between Bowler and LR?
This being released is almost like saying “we, Bowler, the sporty, specialist off-roady, competition guys think there’s more fun to be had playing with the iconic Defender rather than the new Pretender. We’ll get to that when we’re told to by the bosses. In the meantime, let’s have some fun.....” At least they’ve taken on board LR’s pricing model.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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4th Nov 2020 7:36am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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Looks like they’re aiming at the G Wagon market instead £200k
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RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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4th Nov 2020 8:21am |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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I thoroughly agree with you, Grenadier. What are JLR and Bowler up to?
Its rather confusing and irritating. Basically a silhouette racing car (V8 Star style) with a classic Defender "styled" body on top of it. If someone on here would knock that together in their workshop, I´d be very impressed and complementary about the creativity and focus involved in creating the fastest quarter-mile Defender ever. Hot-rodding at its best. It would be a time consuming money-pit, but that´s what hobbies are about. As a creation from an established performance-orientated manufacterer (who have been saved from the brink by a company that is now on the brink themselves), it looks amateur (even in the virtual-reality renderings shown) and inconsistent with any form of strategy relevant to JLR or Bowler. Posssibly a desperate "shot from the hip"? 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTs, Recaro CSs, anorak, wellingtons |
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4th Nov 2020 8:43am |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 820 
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 honestly.. yet another pommie bar steward down under
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4th Nov 2020 9:05am |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2173 
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Bowler have had this in the pipeline since early 2018 according to on of their reps Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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4th Nov 2020 1:20pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Bowler then and Bowler now are two completely different entities though.
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4th Nov 2020 1:25pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2173
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Aye got the till to expand. £200k though, more than the race version! Instagram @defender_ventures
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4th Nov 2020 1:30pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Looking at the space frame toward the rear of the Bowler it looks as if the boot space will be less use than that on the new 90 (if the Bowler’s rear door even opens) with that cross bracing taking up a load of space. Hopefully it’s space frame won’t rot quite as quickly as a classic Defender’s did too Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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4th Nov 2020 3:32pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Where are they getting the body panels from? New/old stock, remanufactured, glass fibre/composite?
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4th Nov 2020 5:12pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3404 
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At that price I’d hope they were some fancy lightweight material.
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4th Nov 2020 5:42pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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What, papier-mâché? That’s exotic and lightweight and eco friendly too being recycled newsprint stuck together with flour and water paste ________ Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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4th Nov 2020 7:44pm |
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