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Mossberg



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Aintree Green
Larger tyre size on a standard 90
Larger tyre size on a standard 90.

I have bought a 90 with special track tyres on it. I want to keep them but would prefer to have something else for daily use. The truck is unlikely to do more than 2000 miles a year, though half of that will be up dirt tracks to an old quarry. (And if this virus thing keeps going on it will probably be more like 200!!)

I am likely to go for some ATs but want to know what size I can go up to on a standard truck without any modifications. I have tried searching, but the threads I have found all refer to lifted vehicles and I don't really want to do that.

I have a set of 7J R16 Freestyle alloys to put them on.

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Regards

Mick
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
255.85r 16 with a little rubbing on articulation. (33")

235.85r16 or 265.75r16 would be standard fitment size, these sizes work well for 99% of time and use. (31") Cheers

James
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Mossberg



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Many thanks James, I appreciate your help.

Regards

Mick
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BogMonster



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If you're only doing 2000 miles a year why wouldn't you just leave them?

I used to change wheels around two or three times a year but eventually it just becomes a faff and you give up! ---
2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi
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London 52



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Hi Mick,

235/85/16s on Freestyles




Don
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Mossberg



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Hi Don,

Thanks for that. They seem to suit the truck well.

The freestyles I have now look ok on the truck but the front caps wont fit. Do I have a different wheel or do you have spacers or magical centre caps?

Thanks again.

Mick
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London 52



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Hi Mick,

I had the same problem so fitted 30mm Hubcentric Spacers Thumbs Up

Don
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London 52



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Couple more photos Mick to give you an idea what they look like with spacers Thumbs Up


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Don
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Mossberg



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Hi Don,

Thanks again pal, I appreciate your time replying.

I have heard mixed reviews on spacers. Some say don't do it as it puts the offset in a manor that increases strain so buy wheels with correct offset, but I thought that would put the same strain on the same parts - but then I am new to this so I welcome the feedback from people.

Also, how do you go on with insurance with spacers?

ATB

Mick
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London 52



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Hi Mick,

I always update my insurance company with any changes from standard spec. I've recently just had a Alive Stage 1 Remap which i declared with no increase in premium at the moment plus the change in wheels with spacers were also declared.

To be honest, it's just not worth taking a chance if the worst did happened!

Don
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c_eilersen



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255/85 without rubbing - 285/75 with minor rubbing, which you can prevent with the steering/turning radius adjustment bolts.
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custom90



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I run 255’s with no spacers and lock stops adjusted as mentioned above.

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Daisy90



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Done over 100k with spacers fitted and not replaced any wheel bearings
Just saying Thumbs Up
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blackwolf



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The effect of wheel spacers on hub bearing loads CANNOT be any different to the effect of running wheels with the same resultant offset, so the myth that they do is just that, a myth, uninformed piffle which has gained credence as a result of the Internet.

The effects of spacers, different offset wheels, or tyre size changes on hub bearing loads will depend on many factors but unless you go to absurd extremes is likely to be negligible. For example 30mm spacers will load your bearings less than a fat passenger.

I have long maintained that good-quality, properly-designed spacers fitted correctly are entirely safe. I think that the reason that spacers generically seem to have a bad reputation is a result of the hooky antics of the 'slammed and rimmed' boy racer brigade.

it's one of those things where inevitably someone's neighbour's cousin's friend knows someone whose spacers failed, but nobody actually knows of a genuine failure. Rolling with laughter
Post #824237 9th Apr 2020 11:04am
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custom90



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From what I've read spacer failure has been caused by lack of basic mantence I.e. Not checking that they are secured properly - no different to the wheel nuts.
It's only the fact there is twice the chance of this being an issue that causes it.
(Should these people even be driving which such poor maintence levels? Shocked )

I personally prefer not to use them, but each to their own. Very Happy $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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