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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153   
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Mid conversion currently. Plan evolved and now using a ZF 8 speed auto box from a 2016 BMW X5 which we are currently mapping from scratch.. Everything else is just in need of finishing off.
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7th Sep 2020 7:36am |
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| cold Member Since: 15 Dec 2018 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 118 |
Thanks Mata, look forward to hearing about the finished article
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7th Sep 2020 8:23am |
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| ChrisCSL Member Since: 10 Aug 2019 Location: Berks Posts: 186 
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I'm also very interested to hear more. Please keep us posted Mata
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7th Sep 2020 12:37pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878  
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Me too. Especially with the 8-speed ZF. Surely that warrants taking that BHP a smidge over 300? 350 perhaps?
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Sep 2020 5:17pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1953  
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Wasn’t the TDCI 3.2 lump all the rage a while back? 2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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7th Sep 2020 6:18pm |
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| cold Member Since: 15 Dec 2018 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 118 |
Mata - just saw https://www.facebook.com/837260399956385/posts/1240443286304759/ posted by MWmachines - I can only assume it is yours, lucky guy
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7th Sep 2020 7:20pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878
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It was, but this Beemer conversion is really looking (IMHO), the best all round option for power, keeping the same fuel, smooth drive, torque and price. 3.2 TDCI is Much more expensive. Only 5 cyl. Harder to get to, let alone past, 300bhp (crate is 200bhp). Only 5cyl. Etc etc. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Sep 2020 7:29pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878
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Very cool. Sounds right for a Defender too. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Sep 2020 7:30pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4230 
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I’m curious what happens to the taxation class of the vehicle when fitting a different engine could have very different CO2? Does it keep the original class or drop into some other category? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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7th Sep 2020 7:47pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 550 
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Yeah, loss of CoC, too. Do they certify the vehicle according to the small series rules in the European certification standard ?
Or is it probably "off road use only" ? |
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7th Sep 2020 8:45pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1953
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2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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7th Sep 2020 8:51pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17600 
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Impressive, but I can see an impressive appetite for diffs and driveline components in that one. I sure hope it has a four-gear front diff! |
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7th Sep 2020 10:21pm |
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| HardCharger Member Since: 03 Mar 2013 Location: Manila Posts: 749  
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Maybe someone should try the engine - gearbox combo that Grenadier plans to use so we can get a preview of what to expect. Also, it would be nice to see my options in the event I get another catastrophic event and the 2.4 can no longer be resurrected.
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8th Sep 2020 3:31am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878
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I assume you’re not talking about me
I think the Grenadier is using Mata’s set up albeit with the latest incarnation of BMW’s flat-six diesel, the N57 which replaced the M57 in Mata’s. And I’m pretty sure it’s mated with the 8-speed ZF. The N57 apparently has more problems than the M57 and for those who’ve driven both, they seem to prefer the M57. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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8th Sep 2020 5:44am |
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