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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3643   
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yes but not in the market for a vehicle like that DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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26th Dec 2019 9:52am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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Yes and No.
Yes, as a replacement for the Disco 5. Yes as something to use on tarmac, especially when the 500bhp+ SVR version arrives. Yes as something that looks (somewhat) different to all the other McGovern blobs. No, as a replacement for the Defender. No as a vehicle for multiple, utilitarian applications. No for pricing. No for heritage. No for character. No for overlanding. No for a group meet. No for an Instagram account.....etc etc etc.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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26th Dec 2019 10:05am |
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| milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 
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No, because it's a re-styled Discovery/Range Rover Sport that no longer looks like a Defender or any of its predecessors and is no longer distinctive.
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26th Dec 2019 10:40am |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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I don't know as I haven't seen one yet and invariably any vehicle looks different in the flesh from how it appears in photos.
However I can't afford one, so whether I like it or not is somewhat irrelevant. |
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26th Dec 2019 10:40am |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 929  
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Already aired my views in previous posts, it is in no way a replacement for the utility Land Rovers Series 1 to 3, 90/110/ Defender up until 2015/16. And therefore should not carry the badge.
If I wanted a "modernised" Defender I probably would have stuck with my old Discovery as that's what you end up with, and you see I think that's the problem with trying to update something that was so individual/different and long standing, it doesn't really work... but that said they could have done a much better job by focusing more on utility market than the now flooded SUV premium  market.
This is of course my opinion and do not want to argue about it anymore, it was getting nasty on here (luddite branding and totally damning the old Defender amongst a few) which was uncalled for and frankly childish... I will not be buying anything from LR anymore, so definite no from me. Merry Christmas to all
Mike |
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26th Dec 2019 10:49am |
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| nosnibod Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: West Midlands Posts: 370 
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No, very simply because we can’t use the new one for the same purpose as my current 110 - or indeed the 110 being built for us by IRB Developments.
The new one is simply not big enough inside to do what we need, despite being huge externally. There are lots of other things I don’t like about the new one, but if it can’t do the same fundamental job as the older model then in my view is that the new Defender is irrelevant. But then I’m probably not representative of what JLR want as a customer. Dave Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi Last edited by nosnibod on 27th Dec 2019 8:38am. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th Dec 2019 10:50am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3299 
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Many have said the same. Hence my question here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic70361.html WARNING. This post may contain sarcasm. |
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26th Dec 2019 11:08am |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..no..its not modernized utility version of previous models, which is what series/defender are from day 1 of their incarnation..yet another mall crawler..
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26th Dec 2019 11:48am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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Yes
It’s exactly what I was hoping for even if I need to wait for the 130 for the boot space  110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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26th Dec 2019 7:26pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 521 |
Yes, but the Land Rover 90/110 - Defender was based on a Range Rover Classic chassis with its transmission and axles with a Land Rover body 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16 Land Rover 110 300 TDI |
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26th Dec 2019 7:38pm |
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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1218 
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Yes
Things move on..things change Love my Puma Tdci, love my S2a, loved most previous LR vehicles I have owned ( loved my Freelander less) 
Will give “ New Defender” a fair chance Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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26th Dec 2019 7:40pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 820 
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Yes, and if I wanted a utility, I would go for any of the Japanese 4 cabs which have saturated the market ,
assume LR knows that is now a very competitive space which they will not be able to take on from a cost perspective yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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27th Dec 2019 12:22am |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 521 |
If it’s that competitive, why bother, I know I wouldn’t - far more profitable for LR to concentrate on harvesting a wealthier market where the money is with customers that are prepared to pay more. 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
Land Rover 110 300 TDI |
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27th Dec 2019 4:57am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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I was expecting a much wider split on this poll.
If I was Land Rover I would take that as a good job done from a poll result from this forum so early on in its release. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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28th Dec 2019 8:16am |
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