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Are you a fan of the new Defender?
Yes
40%
 40%  [43]
No
59%
 59%  [63]
Total Votes: 106

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lohr500



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
New Defender poll.
Are you a fan of the new Defender?

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Post #807612 26th Dec 2019 9:47am
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
yes but not in the market for a vehicle like that DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #807614 26th Dec 2019 9:52am
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Yes and No.

Yes, as a replacement for the Disco 5. Yes as something to use on tarmac, especially when the 500bhp+ SVR version arrives. Yes as something that looks (somewhat) different to all the other McGovern blobs.
No, as a replacement for the Defender. No as a vehicle for multiple, utilitarian applications. No for pricing. No for heritage. No for character. No for overlanding. No for a group meet. No for an Instagram account.....etc etc etc.

Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #807619 26th Dec 2019 10:05am
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milesr3



Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
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2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
No, because it's a re-styled Discovery/Range Rover Sport that no longer looks like a Defender or any of its predecessors and is no longer distinctive.
Post #807623 26th Dec 2019 10:40am
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Joe the Plumber



Member Since: 18 Dec 2013
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2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White
I don't know as I haven't seen one yet and invariably any vehicle looks different in the flesh from how it appears in photos.

However I can't afford one, so whether I like it or not is somewhat irrelevant.
Post #807624 26th Dec 2019 10:40am
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Mike c



Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
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England 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
Already aired my views in previous posts, it is in no way a replacement for the utility Land Rovers Series 1 to 3, 90/110/ Defender up until 2015/16. And therefore should not carry the badge.

If I wanted a "modernised" Defender I probably would have stuck with my old Discovery as that's what you end up with, and you see I think that's the problem with trying to update something that was so individual/different and long standing, it doesn't really work... but that said they could have done a much better job by focusing more on utility market than the now flooded SUV premium Mad market.

This is of course my opinion and do not want to argue about it anymore, it was getting nasty on here (luddite branding and totally damning the old Defender amongst a few) which was uncalled for and frankly childish... I will not be buying anything from LR anymore, so definite no from me.

Merry Christmas to all Thumbs Up

Mike
Post #807625 26th Dec 2019 10:49am
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nosnibod



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
No, very simply because we can’t use the new one for the same purpose as my current 110 - or indeed the 110 being built for us by IRB Developments.

The new one is simply not big enough inside to do what we need, despite being huge externally.

There are lots of other things I don’t like about the new one, but if it can’t do the same fundamental job as the older model then in my view is that the new Defender is irrelevant.

But then I’m probably not representative of what JLR want as a customer. Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi


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Post #807626 26th Dec 2019 10:50am
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
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No, very simply because we can’t use the new one for the same purpose as my current 110 - or indeed the 110 being built for us by IRB Developments.

The new one is simply not big enough inside to do what we need, despite being huge externally.


Many have said the same. Hence my question here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic70361.html WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #807629 26th Dec 2019 11:08am
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Ecco



Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
..no..its not modernized utility version of previous models, which is what series/defender are from day 1 of their incarnation..yet another mall crawler..
Post #807632 26th Dec 2019 11:48am
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RDR



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Yes Thumbs Up

It’s exactly what I was hoping for even if I need to wait for the 130 for the boot space Big Cry 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #807696 26th Dec 2019 7:26pm
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Grouse



Member Since: 16 Apr 2012
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milesr3 wrote:
No, because it's a re-styled Discovery/Range Rover Sport that no longer looks like a Defender or any of its predecessors and is no longer distinctive.


Yes, but the Land Rover 90/110 - Defender was based on a Range Rover Classic chassis with its transmission and axles with a Land Rover body 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
Land Rover 110 300 TDI
Post #807698 26th Dec 2019 7:38pm
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Clemmo



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
Yes Thumbs Up
Things move on..things change

Love my Puma Tdci, love my S2a, loved most previous LR vehicles I have owned ( loved my Freelander less) Wink

Will give “ New Defender” a fair chance

Clemmo Thumbs Up Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green
BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black
Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!)
MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles
Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun
Post #807699 26th Dec 2019 7:40pm
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zilch



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Australia 
Yes, and if I wanted a utility, I would go for any of the Japanese 4 cabs which have saturated the market ,
assume LR knows that is now a very competitive space which they will not be able to take on from a cost
perspective yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #807720 27th Dec 2019 12:22am
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Grouse



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If it’s that competitive, why bother, I know I wouldn’t - far more profitable for LR to concentrate on harvesting a wealthier market where the money is with customers that are prepared to pay more. 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16
Land Rover 110 300 TDI
Post #807723 27th Dec 2019 4:57am
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
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United Kingdom 
I was expecting a much wider split on this poll.

If I was Land Rover I would take that as a good job done from a poll result from this forum so early on in its release. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
Post #807835 28th Dec 2019 8:16am
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