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hank



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Beginning of the end for private diesels?
Spotted this yesterday

Bristol clean air diesel ban plan approved
Bristol is set to become the UK's first city to ban diesel cars from entering parts of the city centre in a bid to cut air pollution.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-50292596

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Other cities will follow suit and I can’t blame them. Bristol had (by law) to do something to address the poor air quality. I hope it isn’t the end for private diesels. It would be great if an holistic view on vehicle pollution could be taken, a cradle to grave rating taking into account source materials, location of manufacture, location of use, percentage recyclable, etc.
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Looks like misses will need to get to the office earlier then. Cheers

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Not the same but I believe Birmingham is introducing some sort of charge thing. to my mind they should be thankful for anyone that wants to visit Birmingham and if anything they should be paying people to visit not the other way round Mr. Green

not sure if the same can be said for Bristol?

not having to commute into the city anymore is such a good thing and I really feel for those that do have to.......


it's a jungle out there! (at least that's how I perceive Birmingham these days Very Happy)
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It's all well and good councils banning diesels, I wonder how the knock on effect of even less footfall in towns causing even more shops to close.

I suppose there'll be more pollution then from all the vaping shops that will no doubt open up. Laughing
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Bristol is set to become the UK's first city to ban diesel cars from entering parts of the city centre in a bid to cut air pollution.
and same breath inc the size of the Bristol air port how at going to cut air pollution. just move to out side the city
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Yes and after expanding the airport too at the very same time.

On the plus side. People will know who to vote out straight away. As such it’s great timing before elections too.

I don’t mind people going EV etc, encourage that. That’s fine. But telling others what they can and can’t do is just simply politically motivated.
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According to the BBC News app this morning the no diesels zone includes a section of motorway - should be interesting seeing how they prohibit diesels from using that........ Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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This is a move for breathing more clean air for city residents, as opposed to tackling climate change.

Polluted roads right next to your house give worse air quality for people than an airport on the outskirts.
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
According to the BBC News app this morning the no diesels zone includes a section of motorway - should be interesting seeing how they prohibit diesels from using that........


ANPRS ? Camera in the appropriate lane answer just gets dropped through ya door ?
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Zed



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dailysleaze wrote:
This is a move for breathing more clean air for city residents, as opposed to tackling climate change.

Polluted roads right next to your house give worse air quality for people than an airport on the outskirts.


Yep. Different issue entirely.

Bristol is one of many areas which has illegal levels of pollution. The cost financially (NHS, days off work) and to the health of residents is huge. People are literally dying.
The government has instructed all offending councils/areas to lower toxic NO2 levels to within legal limits as quickly as possible.
I read that London managed lower NO2 levels by a third in their clean air zone so it's no surprise others are following their lead. Especially as it also raises income.

I'm sure people kicked off in 1956 and 1968 when the Clean Air Act's were introduced but they worked and lives were saved. WARNING.
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^^^^ As expected. Laughing $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Ditto and I just won another fiver!

Thanks. WARNING.
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
According to the BBC News app this morning the no diesels zone includes a section of motorway - should be interesting seeing how they prohibit diesels from using that........


Probably the M32 that goes into central Brizzle
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From the article - "Diesel powered lorries, vans, buses and taxis which pay to enter the wider clean air zone will also be allowed in the central zone.

Taxis and vans will pay a daily charge of £9 and buses and HGVs £100."

Unusual public transport policy Rolling Eyes Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
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