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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3316 |
Jim, I have read your posts in the past and although we may disagree on many things I believe we would most likely agree on the basics. Right from wrong, justice, fairness etc. If you witnessed a grown man abusing a child in the street, I'd like to think you would at least say something. Maybe even give him a well deserved dig. So why do you condone that behaviour on the internet? |
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12th Oct 2019 6:15pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453 |
Perhaps Zed you should refrain from personal insults and or attitude or innuendo launched at other members on here based on your own perceived bias.
It would easily be possible to say you yourself are hypocritical if you feel so strongly owning a Defender in the first place. Thunberg is aligned with XR, XR are closely aligned with another political movement and or political parties too. All swing the same way, it’s their new thing to follow. They are enemies of most people like us on here, and their clear objective is to try and manipulate, domineer and control. And try to force their own objectives at the price of freedom. I am all for freedom, I am for liberty. For freedom of choice. The majority do not want to live in a dictatorial state or country, I do not tell others how to live or what to drive or what to do. I expect others to not do the same. Least of all discriminate against others upon what they drive or what they chose to do. In a way it’s a kind of vehicular racism if you like. (Also based on perceived class of owner or type.) I don’t want to cause or instigate any trouble, but you definitely regularly seem to enjoy a good squabble on here with members on here regarding nearly always a political type of motivation in some way or another. You have done this with me, and you’ve done this with Jim and anyone else for that matter who doesn’t happen to agree. There is no need to be argumentative nor personal in any way. If you don’t agree, that’s fine but don’t keep on arguing and trying to force your point on others. I thought a good saying was ‘If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say it at all”. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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12th Oct 2019 8:09pm |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3316 |
Steve,
An abusive video was posted about a minor with learning difficulties. Some may take pleasure in that but I believe it to be in very bad taste. Disagree with her views by all means but to attack her personally is wrong. Free speech works both ways. You have the right to say it but I have the right to disagree. |
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12th Oct 2019 8:26pm |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453 |
If you follow that logic then they have no right to try and ban Diesel or we have the right to prevent EV’s taking over. Or we could stay as we are, and have been for years. Very happy with our freedom of access and of choice to drive what we like and do what we like with in the law. And that also means the law isn’t there to be manipulated to reduce the public freedom for financial gain.
Insurance is another industry that needs looking into, because that has a similar nature control and manipulation of regulation and laws. Not just motor but all insurance sectors. It’s funny how freedom of access in the Lake District has been attacked recently too. Failed, but attempted. No one here is going to take such things lightly or acceptingly, it goes beyond fuels etc anyway. It is a classed based thing too. Local council this area posted out to people not long ago if they don’t agree with their idiocy. “Just get a new EV car” if they don’t like it. Food for thought whilst there are many people out their without a home. Why don’t these do gooders do something about things like that.. No they’d rather judge the neighbour in their “big 4x4 thing next door”. There is a lot of this going on, gender battles etc as well. No need for any of it we’re all people, no need to stoke up such behaviour. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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12th Oct 2019 8:45pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
That an abusive video? Strong words once again, not the first time by the way. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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12th Oct 2019 8:50pm |
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zippo87 Member Since: 29 Mar 2019 Location: Moray Posts: 100 |
Being offended by ‘X’ just seems to be a thing these days. I’m sure at some point people will just give up communication completely for fear of being ousted or for using a racist or defamation signal such as the ‘ok’ signal - for example that divers and almost everybody who just needs to indicate a non verbal sign that something is ‘ok’ !!
I’m not sure which generation is causing the most harm - but each are coming in at their own angle and it’s getting bloody grating!! |
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12th Oct 2019 10:39pm |
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diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6098 |
Someone abusing an "innocent" child in the street is one thing, but someone else standing in a patform and lecturing the world on what they consider everyone else should be doing is another. And I don't care if they're thick skinned politicians, doo-gooder film stars, mouthy pop stars or 16 year old schoolgirls.... if they stand up to lecture then they're fair game. Her parents (if they're the puppeteers pulling the strings) have latched onto a good thing; lets use a disabled 16 yeaar old girl as our "front man", then some sections of society who feel for her, can try (and fail miserably ) to make others feel uncomfortable by dissagreeing with her. |
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13th Oct 2019 6:34am |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
Anyone seen the LR customer relations chap/chapess in here or has it just become too toxic to be associated with?
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13th Oct 2019 7:34am |
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Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3316 |
Correct me if I've misunderstood Jim but I think you are saying you enjoy giving personal abuse to anyone who's opinions you don't like, regardless of age and you don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Do you carry out this behaviour in real life or exclusively on internet forums? |
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13th Oct 2019 7:44am |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
^^ Who’s talking? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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13th Oct 2019 7:57am |
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Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795 |
Fellas in a minute Martin will pop along and warn people of their behaviour, then have to spend his time tidying up the thread,I am sure he has much better ways of spending his time than doing that, perhaps now has come and its best just to move along and not keep squabbling. Just my thoughts 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 Last edited by Sulisuli on 13th Oct 2019 8:20am. Edited 1 time in total |
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13th Oct 2019 8:08am |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
Good if Martin kicks in, but suggest he takes a good look at certain threads history.
You all have a nice Sunday. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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13th Oct 2019 8:12am |
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diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6098 |
] When did I give any personal abuse? YOU were the one who started calling people "classy" on here for enjoying the video clip. All i said, if you bother to re-read it instead of just being your usual patronising self, is "anyone who sticks their head up should expect to get incoming" and in that, I mean should expect to get people who don't agree, don't like, have other ideas etc etc. Also please note it wasn't me that posted the (very funny IMO) video of the Porsche driver. |
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13th Oct 2019 12:52pm |
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Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1286 |
As a past victim of Zed's sarcasm and abuse, I am truly sorry that he is at it again.
It isn't half a dozen people doing it on here. It's just one. The same one. |
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13th Oct 2019 6:33pm |
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