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| SVX90 Member Since: 31 Aug 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 38  
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Hammond did not look impressed deep inside. Lets wait for Clarkson's take on that one.
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10th Sep 2019 10:11am |
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| The Fox Member Since: 24 Mar 2014 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 94  
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JLR know that it's new-car customers are 'Cash Cows' with large wallets so it makes sound business sense to develop a product which has lots of options to make the average punter feel like Ranulph Fiennes on their way to Waitrose. It was never going to cost less than £40k, because that's where JLRs price-point starts.
I don't like the styling much, think they could have done more to make it a better reflection of the original - but I do admire the approach of trying to start something new. It looks a bit like a LR equivalent of the Toyota FJ Cruiser to me. And I quite like the FJ Cruiser! Engines are a disappointment, but will probably do the job well. I'd like to see what they come up with when it comes to an EV powertrain - not sure how I'd feel testing the 900mm wading depth sitting on top of a 400V battery. All in all, I'm glad it's here and the wait is over - it's cleared my decision to buy a new Jimny!! |
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10th Sep 2019 10:28am |
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| timthepom Member Since: 12 Jul 2019 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 29 
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This is a decent review
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10th Sep 2019 10:48am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
Nice postive review - loving it even more now!
 Steve N | 21MY Defender  | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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10th Sep 2019 11:21am |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..they have successfully killed truck existed for over 50 years with unique form, with yet another mall crawler...it is not a surprise that Land Rover marking wonderful financial losses...leadership as well as design team have no bloody idea what they are doing..what a pile of garbage..
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10th Sep 2019 1:14pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5192
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Land rover lost their way years ago to me, the disco that was once a car that could be off road like the defender, that sadly became a posh kids to school car, the range rover, I wont even go there at all. So I am not surprised that the new defender has gone the same way. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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10th Sep 2019 3:20pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 930  
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Anybody who doesn't like it (me!) doesn't have to buy it. It's a replacement for the the Discovery imo, all be it the D3/4 but with an "icon" name
Today's official release has made me appreciate what I already have more, long live the old Defender/90/110 and series versions  |
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10th Sep 2019 3:48pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5192
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My dad thinks its ok, I am still not sure on it but I think its safe to say that ours is now called the classic defender as of today. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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10th Sep 2019 3:54pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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I've been off with my little lad who was poorly today so I did some painting of a room...and was thinking
I showed it my lad, he loves anything Landrover and said Yuck it looks like a Big Mini... Now I actually quite like it and realise things have to change, however I'm unsure who its now aimed at? I'm a 40 something bod, family man, like camping (glamping), mountain biking, drones, outdoors etc, dual income doing ok and could if I wanted choose to buy it.... I sold a perfectly nice Mercedes Estate as I found it dull, auto everything, you just steer the thing. Bought the defender and didn't miss the Merc at all. I love changing bits / upgrading bits, looking what others have done and reading the mags, Very few Modern cars you can do this to now. My current defender is the longest car I have ever owned, probably the slowest and now the oldest...... I love it. The new one is 'Done' apart from Add on rack and approved bits your not taking your socket set out to that. It will drive great, just get in and off you go. Auto everything again and soft suspension, quick, comfy but.....it does look like lots of other SUV's out there... Its maybe too new, It will I'm sure grow on me, I've just been on the configurator and chose a 110 in black like mine with some goodies...didn't go silly. It was in the £60K marque. I find that hard to take.... So much choice at this level and even in their own range... I just don't see that as a £60K car? So what market is it? I'm old School and don't like leasing and PCP's etc but is this the NEW market? Pay a deposit and I don't know £500 a month for it? to have the latest? then give it back after 2 or 3 years? Nice to see, the 'waits' over, but I'm in no rush to place a deposit. May polish my old one on the weekend  |
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10th Sep 2019 4:13pm |
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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378 
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There’s going to be a lot of defenders old and new in the motoring mags and Sunday papers for the next few months, so I’d imagine the price of all defenders will firm up a tad, or just be easier to sell on.
But I suspect there won’t be any long term difference, the the buyers will be different after all. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop |
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10th Sep 2019 4:19pm |
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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378
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Oh wrong thread🤔🤔 2002 td5 90 county hardtop
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10th Sep 2019 4:20pm |
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| TRX Member Since: 11 Feb 2018 Location: Flanders Posts: 4 
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Maybe for the same amount of money one for weekly,one for sunday,and one for pleasure. New defender is just way to expensive.Hope they come out with a panel van,10 000£ cheaper at least |
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10th Sep 2019 6:27pm |
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| tolley Member Since: 07 Nov 2011 Location: gloucester Posts: 1115 
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Yes I wonder what price tag the commercial defender has.
Still wouldn't part x my 300tdi for one , not that I would get much  |
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10th Sep 2019 6:34pm |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 714 
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Think I read or heard on a review that the commercials are around £35k. The more I look at it, the more I like it, just not sure on the position of the rear lights, and what is that weird floaty blank bit on the rear windows wall about?!
It’ll never replace my 110, but it may well replace our old disco. |
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10th Sep 2019 7:48pm |
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