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Spacers yes or no?
Guys,

I brought my dream (after 25 years) and it came with spacers on the wheels (I think 30mm). It makes it look more chunky which I like but a mate said that I should remove them as it can damage the wheel hubs! Is this true? This is my main everyday car so doing a fair amount of miles and will also be doing some green laning. I would welcome your thoughts. Photo below to show current look

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Post #791275 8th Sep 2019 7:47pm
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Sulisuli



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It’s a real fan of worms, only my previous defender I had spacers on and did 100k miles without problems, but I’m sure others will have a different view on it Thumbs Up
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Post #791278 8th Sep 2019 7:51pm
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90 Dreamer



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If they are a high quality 'hubcentric' type spacer then in general you should be OK.......
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JOW240725



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I ran spacers for 2 years no issues. Vastly improved turning circle.

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Post #791287 8th Sep 2019 8:09pm
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PCM



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If you're worried about them loosening, just check them every 6 months and build up a history. I'd only be happy with spacers if I torqued the bolts up myself. And not a garage and a windy gun.
Should be fine. If i can't find the wheels I want soon I'll be buying a set myself.
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boxoftricks



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I run spacers and have never had an issue. The extra three inches is not going to create significantly higher forces on the bearings when you think what abuse they are designed to go through. Also a set of new bearings are pretty cheap.
Post #791304 8th Sep 2019 9:23pm
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bear100



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bankz5152



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As long as there are hubcentric you wont have an issue. I drive my daily on and off road. 35k later not an issue. Instagram @defender_ventures
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hank



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The laws of physics say yes they will cause more moment about the hub/bearing

Moment = force x distance

As you are increasing the lever arm (distance) by 30mm then the product of moment is greater.

However the hub and bearings are designed with a factor of safety to cope with such loads and it's really not a problem. Leave them on Thumbs Up You're mate is a negative nancy > 110 XS Double Cab
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diduan



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Mine is on 33s and the turning circle without spacers is miserable. Never had problems but if it could be done without, I wouldn't put any. Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
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blackwolf



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Re: Spacers yes or no?
The only issues you may have from quality 30mm spacers are (a) from half-witted insurance companies who for no particular reason think that they will massively increase the insured risk, and (b) from the fun police who know someone whose wife's brother-in-law was once told by a stranger that they can knacker wheel bearings (which they can't) or they'll just fall off one day (which is highly unlikely if you tighten the nuts to the correct torque).

I suspect that (a) originates from computer-generated statistics based on boy racers with slammed and rimmed hatchbacks, in which demographic it probably does indicate an increase in insured risk.
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Fat Cog



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Although looking at the pictures they make you LR illegal under Construction & Use Regs, tyres must not protrude the body line or wheel arches, some insurance companies would use this as a get out & I believe most people are getting away with it due to Police cuts and the demise of roads policing.

Other than that on a personal level I think spacers are a waste of time...I do a lot of greenlaning and despite previous comments, I've seen quite a few wheel issues, including them coming loose with extended off road use, and without exception its when spacers have been fitted.

Your choice though... Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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blackwolf



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From the pictures I think that the OP is - just - legal, since the requirement is that the tread is within the arch viewed vertically from above. It is right on the borderline though.

Once upon a time I had 285 BFG KM2s on Boosts with 30mm spacers and they were similarly just legal but borderline.
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Sulisuli



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AndrewS



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Ive used Hubcentric spacers on loads of Defenders and proper off roaded them, I've never ever ever had a hub related issue, had lots of other problems with gearbox output shafts, clutches, rear drive shafts diffs etc etc.
In other words your truck is likely to develop drivetrain issues anyway. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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