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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586  
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Many Thanks to William
 Click image to enlarge SEE CO2 emissions.... This confirm that is ONLY RELATED to the FORD cost reduction optimization for the PUMAs lines production, it will produce only the 2.2 (and the 3.2L 5 cyls???). Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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24th May 2011 11:46am |
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| Landie Boy Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 431  
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The compression will be interesting, at the moment to really slow it down in first low you have to turn the AC on and all the electronics... Jack Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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24th May 2011 12:48pm |
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| Landie Boy Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 431
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Sorry, i forgot to mention if you are going down some steep slopes. Jack |
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24th May 2011 2:16pm |
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| BruceT Member Since: 01 Nov 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 517 
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Sorry to disagree with you Landie Boy but I have been down some serious slopes including a measured 42 deg test slope and there is no increase in speed. Its slower than my TD5.
I heard with the early puma models they did but it was apparently sorted out, but not sure. |
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24th May 2011 2:27pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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Yeah I knew what you meant, and no, you don't have to do that in a 90. Mine will creep down in low 1st at a pace that's barely moving. It's only the longer wheelbase versions which had that issue |
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24th May 2011 2:34pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2633 
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This post from a fellow SA Defender owner sums it up nicely:
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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25th May 2011 6:53am |
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| Scallops Member Since: 15 Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 89 
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Good call from your friend. The problem is, the majority of Defender drivers these days don't use them in the conditions stated, and as a result are quite happy to have things as they are - electronics, ever decreasing small capacity engines and all that goes with them. Those who do, understand the sentiment and generally concur. |
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25th May 2011 10:02pm |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231 
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NAKS what you are looking for/describing is a 76 Cruiser, with it's 4.2 l Diesel no Turbo - No mess...No Fuss  |
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26th May 2011 7:11am |
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| Marius Member Since: 21 Dec 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 231
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I LOVE the defender.
But It would be awsome if the 4.2 HZ Engine from the 76 Cruiser can be fitted in the Puma. Best of both worlds! |
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26th May 2011 7:13am |
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| LESVOSD110 Member Since: 19 Aug 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 241 
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sweeeeeeeeeeeet! Diesel engines and cc's equals Grunt.  Puma 110 SW
90 V8 SOFT TOP |
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26th May 2011 8:35am |
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| DasLandRoverMan Member Since: 24 May 2011 Location: Dumfries & Galloway Posts: 31 
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You'd think that as John Eales can fit a TDV6 into a Defender with either the Disco 3 manual box, or an auto, surely Land Rover would have tried to do it themselves again?
Let's be honest, those who buy Defenders either have them as cars, many choosing them over Yotas, Jeeps etc with similarly sized or larger lumps, or commercial users who always want more power etc.... I doubt very much many other considerations such as tax bracket, emissions etc come into it. You want one because it is what it is, or because it's the best for the job. Who would buy a Tdci powered defender if the TDV6 was available as an option? It wouldn't hurt for JLR to bring their engines all 'in house' either. 1982 Wife 1984 300 Tdi 110 H/T 'Recovery' Plus 4 kids and a dog. Previously owned: 1956 86" Series I, 1960 SWB Series II, 1964 Series IIA Forward Control, 1966 Series IIB Forward Control, 1969 Series IIA Lightweight, 1969 Series IIA One Ton, 1973 Series III One Ton, 1975 101 Forward Control, 1987 V8 90 CSW, 1988 2.5 TD 90, 1988 V8 110 CSW, 1992 200Tdi Defender 90, 1993 V8 Range Rover, 1995 300 Tdi Discovery. |
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27th May 2011 7:31pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 
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I use mine for work everyday. Jap crap can't legally tow 3.5 tonne. All the farmers by me have at least one. I wouldn't mind more power but it's not the end of the world. I would be the other way disco as car and defender as the workhorse and off roader. I think many people buy jap stuff on price and the fact you only fit in a defender with the window open and steer with your knees.
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27th May 2011 7:46pm |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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I drive my Defender because it gets its job done. I don't care a penny what engine is in there. The 2.4 Puma does well and appears to be quite reliable. If a new 2.2 would do the same, who cares? I don't need a monster machine eating fuel and my money like hell.
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28th May 2011 4:47am |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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 John
http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk 2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS |
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28th May 2011 8:30am |
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