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Grenadier



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Axle Stands
About to purchase some axle stands, looking for 2 x 3t.

I was hoping to buy traditional 3-leg stands with locking pin, but most (here in France) seem to be 4-leg ratchet systems. Anyone used both and have a view on the new 4-leg ratchet variety?

And what does their max height need to be? The blue ones below reach 36cms, the red ones 46cms...

Price for both is much the same.




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Mountain_man



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I have both. Only ever use the 3 leg/pin ones as a last resort. The newer type are so much better.
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Grenadier



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Good to know MM. Thank you. I'll place the order now. Any idea on height, there are so many varieties. Monsieur Le Grenadier

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+1 for the ratchet type. 46cm will be ample. I've got the Halfords 2 tonne version, which has a max height of 43cm, but they don't need to be fully extended to support a Defender axle. Darren

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Grenadier



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Thank you LRA. Ordering now!! Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Wheel



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Hi Grenadier,

I've a few sets of axle stands and although ive not used them my mate has and loved them, I have a ratchet set as in your last picture of the red ones..
I bought mine from Costco (I'm sure other shops are available) and from memory they were about £22 - 24

Mark
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Laser do a 4 leg ratchet one with a pin as well. I got a set from Forum sponsor Opie Oils. Having the pin just gives a nice bit of extra confidence they are locked. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Grenadier



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Thanks Bluest, like the idea of the pin as well, but I've already placed the order. Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

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leeds



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I use the 3 leg version with a tube and locking pin.

Now I am sure that I have seen a report of one of those cast metal ratchet stands failing in the last couple of weeks. Sorry I can not remember where I saw that report. IIRC a 2 tonne ratchet stand under a 3 tonne Disco

Now HSE has done some guidelines/case studies HERE . Mainly aimed at commercial but also applies to home mechanics


When I use axle stands I leave the jack in place. Wheel off? that goes underneath vehicle. Chock wheels on ground etc. OK might take a few minutes longer but could save a lifetime of pain.


Brendan
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LandRoverAnorak



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Now I am sure that I have seen a report of one of those cast metal ratchet stands failing in the last couple of weeks. Sorry I can not remember where I saw that report. IIRC a 2 tonne ratchet stand under a 3 tonne Disco

Blimey Brendan, you can't beat a bit of unsubstantiated sensationalism. As for the Disco, unless somebody was trying to balance the entire car on one stand, then two tonnes should be perfectly adequate. Darren

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leeds



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LRA sorry was not trying to be sensationalist . Now unfortunately I can not find that picture of the failed axle stand I saw about a week ago. That is my mistake.


However if you google failed axle stands you will see several examples of different axle stands which have failed.

I will not work on our Defenders with them just supported by a single axle stand. Will leave the jack in place, put spare wheel under the chassis etc..

If travelling I take a folding axle stand to assist with wheel changing with the axle resting on both jack and axle stand. I would not trust the folding axle stand by itself it is used as a backup to the jack.




Brendan
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